matts05
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- May 24, 2013
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Hello all,
Linked figure with freebodies: [URL unfurl="true"]https://imgur.com/C64SFjI[/url]
I am looking at a thin-walled cylinder with applied vertical and axial loads, simply supported at top-dead center at two bosses. The bosses are backed up by integral frames to carry local vertical loads into the body. (Section 1 of linked figure).
Balancing and sizing to vertical loads is easy (Section 2 of linked figure). The body is simply supported so I get local vertical reactions at the bosses. I can then balance the integral frames for the reaction loads using a q = V*Q/I shear flow distribution.
The global balance for the axial load is also simple (Section 3 of linked figure). Axial force is reacted at one of the bosses, and the induced moment is coupled out between vertical reactions at the frames.
The problem is how to locally work the axial reaction into the structure (Section 4 of linked figure). Most of the structures like this that I deal with have a local stiffener/beam running between the two integral frames, which provides a load path for the local offset-induced bending moment to couple out between the two frames (shown as "option 1"). Unfortunately due to non-structural systems & configuration issues I do not have that bending member. The only other ways that I can think of to carry this load are to dump it directly into the thin wall and size an effective arc length of the cylinder (maybe equal to the boss diameter?) to the bending moment (shown as "option 2"), or I could twist the moment around the integral frame and balance it with an M*c/I running load distribution at the cylinder wall (shown as "option 3").
Ideally I get the longitudinal bending member running between the frames--that will provide a loadpath to both carry the local bending as well as the local drag, which would then have plenty of space to shear into the skin. However that option is currently unavailable to me. And as much as I do not want to bend local skin, I think twisting all around the open-section frame is not realistic.
Any thoughts on how to intelligently balance this? I am also worried about what failure modes will become of concern when I do not provide the frame-to-frame loadpath--my effective arc length would be loaded in either tension or compression, plus bending, plus its portion of body bending stresses. Or is even considering this a bad idea, and should I press to get the local bending member?
Thanks in advance, and let me know if I can clear anything up.
Matt
Linked figure with freebodies: [URL unfurl="true"]https://imgur.com/C64SFjI[/url]
I am looking at a thin-walled cylinder with applied vertical and axial loads, simply supported at top-dead center at two bosses. The bosses are backed up by integral frames to carry local vertical loads into the body. (Section 1 of linked figure).
Balancing and sizing to vertical loads is easy (Section 2 of linked figure). The body is simply supported so I get local vertical reactions at the bosses. I can then balance the integral frames for the reaction loads using a q = V*Q/I shear flow distribution.
The global balance for the axial load is also simple (Section 3 of linked figure). Axial force is reacted at one of the bosses, and the induced moment is coupled out between vertical reactions at the frames.
The problem is how to locally work the axial reaction into the structure (Section 4 of linked figure). Most of the structures like this that I deal with have a local stiffener/beam running between the two integral frames, which provides a load path for the local offset-induced bending moment to couple out between the two frames (shown as "option 1"). Unfortunately due to non-structural systems & configuration issues I do not have that bending member. The only other ways that I can think of to carry this load are to dump it directly into the thin wall and size an effective arc length of the cylinder (maybe equal to the boss diameter?) to the bending moment (shown as "option 2"), or I could twist the moment around the integral frame and balance it with an M*c/I running load distribution at the cylinder wall (shown as "option 3").
Ideally I get the longitudinal bending member running between the frames--that will provide a loadpath to both carry the local bending as well as the local drag, which would then have plenty of space to shear into the skin. However that option is currently unavailable to me. And as much as I do not want to bend local skin, I think twisting all around the open-section frame is not realistic.
Any thoughts on how to intelligently balance this? I am also worried about what failure modes will become of concern when I do not provide the frame-to-frame loadpath--my effective arc length would be loaded in either tension or compression, plus bending, plus its portion of body bending stresses. Or is even considering this a bad idea, and should I press to get the local bending member?
Thanks in advance, and let me know if I can clear anything up.
Matt