largehearted
Structural
- Oct 14, 2022
- 2
Hi all.
We're repairing a 4" concrete wall behind the tile face of a swimming pool. This 4" concrete wall is called a "protective concrete wall" in the original design drawings.
Behind it (imagine you're standing in an empty pool) is a 12" foundation wall, and behind that is an equipment space, so - as I understand it - the pool water pressure creates tension stress in the vertical reinforcement of that 12" foundation wall beyond. This arrangement has performed well for the 12" foundation wall, which did not observe significant cracking in. Yay! The protective concrete wall failed, though, with significant cracks forming a cheshire cat smile through the tile finish, across its 40ft length. The original 4" protective concrete wall had wiremesh called out thus: #66-1010. There are plenty of forensic possibilities for the wall failure including excessive stress from the water pressure or the wall's buckling under its selfweight (no tiebacks are shown in the original details). We did not probe many spots to identify if the wall might have had joints relieving temperature and shrinkage pressure.
My mind wants to move on from the forensics to replacing the failed wall with a better one, but they really are one and the same issue. How do you reinforce a concrete wall with anticipated bending behavior like a wearing slab, chlorinated water 1.25" away, and a 4" thickness?
I have a concrete textbook that points to the ACI 318-11 recommendations for non-load-bearing walls:
(1) thickness >= 4" or 1/30 of the least distance between lateral supports (ACI 318-11 14.6.1),
(2) minimum vertical reinf. ratio 0.0012 for WWF not larger than W31 or D31, (ACI 318-11 14.3.2) ...
(4) minimum horizontal reinf. ratio 0.0020 for WWF not larger than W31 or D31 (ACI 318-11 14.3.3) ...
most code provisions are irrelevant to a 4" concrete wall, or specific to rebar reinforcement (which I typically am specifying even in SOGs, beside the points).
I'm confused about their rationale for giving 5/3 as much reinforcement in the horizontal direction as in the vertical. Imagining our protective concrete wall as a wearing slab with 9ft by 43ft dimensions, if it were to deflect with the foundation wall behind, wouldn't it bend one-way with the vertical reinforcement being this primary bending direction? Worse than not understanding their rationale, I think these provisions have since fallen out of the ACI?
Any help understanding these minimum reinforcement provisions, their applicability, potential design considerations (at the level of the concrete, not waterproofing, finishing, etc.), or even potential forces at play in the original protective concrete wall failure would be massively appreciated, and probably help me far into my career with light concrete work like this.
Best,
Noah
We're repairing a 4" concrete wall behind the tile face of a swimming pool. This 4" concrete wall is called a "protective concrete wall" in the original design drawings.
Behind it (imagine you're standing in an empty pool) is a 12" foundation wall, and behind that is an equipment space, so - as I understand it - the pool water pressure creates tension stress in the vertical reinforcement of that 12" foundation wall beyond. This arrangement has performed well for the 12" foundation wall, which did not observe significant cracking in. Yay! The protective concrete wall failed, though, with significant cracks forming a cheshire cat smile through the tile finish, across its 40ft length. The original 4" protective concrete wall had wiremesh called out thus: #66-1010. There are plenty of forensic possibilities for the wall failure including excessive stress from the water pressure or the wall's buckling under its selfweight (no tiebacks are shown in the original details). We did not probe many spots to identify if the wall might have had joints relieving temperature and shrinkage pressure.
My mind wants to move on from the forensics to replacing the failed wall with a better one, but they really are one and the same issue. How do you reinforce a concrete wall with anticipated bending behavior like a wearing slab, chlorinated water 1.25" away, and a 4" thickness?
I have a concrete textbook that points to the ACI 318-11 recommendations for non-load-bearing walls:
(1) thickness >= 4" or 1/30 of the least distance between lateral supports (ACI 318-11 14.6.1),
(2) minimum vertical reinf. ratio 0.0012 for WWF not larger than W31 or D31, (ACI 318-11 14.3.2) ...
(4) minimum horizontal reinf. ratio 0.0020 for WWF not larger than W31 or D31 (ACI 318-11 14.3.3) ...
most code provisions are irrelevant to a 4" concrete wall, or specific to rebar reinforcement (which I typically am specifying even in SOGs, beside the points).
I'm confused about their rationale for giving 5/3 as much reinforcement in the horizontal direction as in the vertical. Imagining our protective concrete wall as a wearing slab with 9ft by 43ft dimensions, if it were to deflect with the foundation wall behind, wouldn't it bend one-way with the vertical reinforcement being this primary bending direction? Worse than not understanding their rationale, I think these provisions have since fallen out of the ACI?
Any help understanding these minimum reinforcement provisions, their applicability, potential design considerations (at the level of the concrete, not waterproofing, finishing, etc.), or even potential forces at play in the original protective concrete wall failure would be massively appreciated, and probably help me far into my career with light concrete work like this.
Best,
Noah