hommealone
Industrial
- Sep 17, 2004
- 1
Greetings. I am seeking information on the long-term durability of rigid PVC plastics. My question involves the dehydrochlorination degradation process, and whether long-term degradation is inevitable or not in rigid PVC.
I am trying to licence a product to a large mfgr. It is made of expanded (rigid) PVC plastic, with exceptional built-in UV protection. It is intended for indoor use and exposure only, but the utmost durability is important. In our field, long-term durability and stability of materials is required (i.e., centuries). The product was developed to replace existing wooden products with something more durable.
This manufacturer currently produces other types of products made of acrylics, and has expressed concern about the dehydrochlorination degradation process in PVC, and is afraid that this process might make our product unsuitable in terms of long term durability.
Our understanding had been that dehydrochlorination was primarily a concern in plastisized PVC plastics, and that well formulated and produced rigid PVC plastics were stabilized and internally protected against this problem. It had been our belief that properly made rigid PVC plastics would not degrade "on their own", and that if they were not damaged by UV, heat, or physical stress, they would not significantly degrade even over very long time frames, and perhaps even indefinitely.
We would like to find out whether our beliefs are true or not, and if they are, we would like to be able to convince this mfgr. of that as well.
Since the manufactured plastic which we use to make our product is not otherwise used for purposes requiring such long time-frames for durability, its mfgr. has not performed testing to verify its longevity. And I am pretty sure that they will not reveal any details about how this particular product is formulated vis-a-vis stabilizers, additives, etc.
Would you consider all PVC plastics - both non-rigid and plastisized - to be unstable? Do you know if this dehydrochlorination degradation process is inevitable in all PVC plastics, or can properly made rigid PVC plastics be considered stable?
I am wondering what research has been done on the (long term) stability or non-stability of rigid, non-plastisized PVC plastics. Can you possibly tell me more about that, and/or help direct me to find that information? If you are familiar with it - or have performed it yourself! - might you be able to summarize it for me as well?
What are the parameters that promote and/or mitigate/protect against degradation in rigid PVC?
What are the time frames that you would expect to be associated with any eventual degradation process in rigid PVCs? Would the degradation process likely be a slow and steady progression, or would it eventually speed up after an initial period of slower or less apparent degradation?
If the process is inevitable in all PVC, does it also inevitably result in the release of acidic by-products (eg HCL)?
Any help that I can receive in answering these questions would be tremendously and vitally helpful. Should it be easiest for you, please feel free to contact me by phone at 845 - 338 - 8603. If you prefer to email me directly, you can use this address: paul [at] hudsonhighland [dot] com.
Thanks so much!
- Paul
I am trying to licence a product to a large mfgr. It is made of expanded (rigid) PVC plastic, with exceptional built-in UV protection. It is intended for indoor use and exposure only, but the utmost durability is important. In our field, long-term durability and stability of materials is required (i.e., centuries). The product was developed to replace existing wooden products with something more durable.
This manufacturer currently produces other types of products made of acrylics, and has expressed concern about the dehydrochlorination degradation process in PVC, and is afraid that this process might make our product unsuitable in terms of long term durability.
Our understanding had been that dehydrochlorination was primarily a concern in plastisized PVC plastics, and that well formulated and produced rigid PVC plastics were stabilized and internally protected against this problem. It had been our belief that properly made rigid PVC plastics would not degrade "on their own", and that if they were not damaged by UV, heat, or physical stress, they would not significantly degrade even over very long time frames, and perhaps even indefinitely.
We would like to find out whether our beliefs are true or not, and if they are, we would like to be able to convince this mfgr. of that as well.
Since the manufactured plastic which we use to make our product is not otherwise used for purposes requiring such long time-frames for durability, its mfgr. has not performed testing to verify its longevity. And I am pretty sure that they will not reveal any details about how this particular product is formulated vis-a-vis stabilizers, additives, etc.
Would you consider all PVC plastics - both non-rigid and plastisized - to be unstable? Do you know if this dehydrochlorination degradation process is inevitable in all PVC plastics, or can properly made rigid PVC plastics be considered stable?
I am wondering what research has been done on the (long term) stability or non-stability of rigid, non-plastisized PVC plastics. Can you possibly tell me more about that, and/or help direct me to find that information? If you are familiar with it - or have performed it yourself! - might you be able to summarize it for me as well?
What are the parameters that promote and/or mitigate/protect against degradation in rigid PVC?
What are the time frames that you would expect to be associated with any eventual degradation process in rigid PVCs? Would the degradation process likely be a slow and steady progression, or would it eventually speed up after an initial period of slower or less apparent degradation?
If the process is inevitable in all PVC, does it also inevitably result in the release of acidic by-products (eg HCL)?
Any help that I can receive in answering these questions would be tremendously and vitally helpful. Should it be easiest for you, please feel free to contact me by phone at 845 - 338 - 8603. If you prefer to email me directly, you can use this address: paul [at] hudsonhighland [dot] com.
Thanks so much!
- Paul