Shanman_
Structural
- Oct 25, 2017
- 18
Hello All,
My team is racking our brains trying to rationalize a scenario with the following:
A 5 story-wood building is being designed over 2 stories of concrete. We have a 24" mat slab in the basement and two levels of PT slab above. The depth of the highest elevated level is 12" and the lower level is 8".
The issue to contend with is that the soils report as well as historical groundwater elevation data put the bottom of the mat at ~13 ft below the groundwater level. Thus, the report recommends to design the mat using Hydrostatic uplift of 800 psf! The mass of the wood superstructure above is let's say is 250 psf for argument's sake. Adding up the area weights, we can say 900 psf dead load for the building.
We are bouncing back and forth on the following points:
- As the nature of the buoyant force is less dynamic and more precise than a lateral hydrostatic load or a live load for example, we are contemplating running it as a fluid load and therefore would be factored at 1.2H as opposed to 1.6H. Any opinions on running it this way?
- Does the uplift on the underside of the mat contribute to additional compression in the columns as well as punching shear experienced in the mat slab? This would mean an additional 720 kips axial load (service level) to columns at 30 ft oc each way. We have folks leaning both ways.
- Since the mass of the mat slab is not enough to adequately resist the hydrostatic forces at the basement level, would the net uplift carry into the upper concrete levels as upward thrusts at the columns until there is no net uplift?
Would appreciate input from anyone, thanks.
My team is racking our brains trying to rationalize a scenario with the following:
A 5 story-wood building is being designed over 2 stories of concrete. We have a 24" mat slab in the basement and two levels of PT slab above. The depth of the highest elevated level is 12" and the lower level is 8".
The issue to contend with is that the soils report as well as historical groundwater elevation data put the bottom of the mat at ~13 ft below the groundwater level. Thus, the report recommends to design the mat using Hydrostatic uplift of 800 psf! The mass of the wood superstructure above is let's say is 250 psf for argument's sake. Adding up the area weights, we can say 900 psf dead load for the building.
We are bouncing back and forth on the following points:
- As the nature of the buoyant force is less dynamic and more precise than a lateral hydrostatic load or a live load for example, we are contemplating running it as a fluid load and therefore would be factored at 1.2H as opposed to 1.6H. Any opinions on running it this way?
- Does the uplift on the underside of the mat contribute to additional compression in the columns as well as punching shear experienced in the mat slab? This would mean an additional 720 kips axial load (service level) to columns at 30 ft oc each way. We have folks leaning both ways.
- Since the mass of the mat slab is not enough to adequately resist the hydrostatic forces at the basement level, would the net uplift carry into the upper concrete levels as upward thrusts at the columns until there is no net uplift?
Would appreciate input from anyone, thanks.