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Measuring flow from Fire Pumps during Churn Test

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PA PE

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Oct 11, 2019
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A client performs "churn tests" on two fire pumps on a weekly basis. The pumps are essentially run at shutoff head for a short time to verify that they are operable and are developing the proper head. A small amount of water is discharged through relief valves to prevent overheating. The local water Authority wants an estimate of the consumption through the unmetered fire service connection.

I attempted to estimate the flow using the pump curves and the inlet/outlet pressures but this was inconclusive. The pressure gauges indicated a differential that is 10 psi higher than the pump curve at shutoff head. Old gauges.

One of the pumps discharges through a turned down 1" pipe to the ground outside. The flow comes out at a pretty good velocity. The other pump discharges through a 4 inch pipe. This pipe is not flowing full and the water just rolls out of the pipe. In both cases the method of measuring the distance between the discharge and the point of contact on the ground will not work. I don't see a good way to attach flow meters to these pipes. It would take a pipe fitter a day to rig something up at both locations. Just by eyeballing the flows, I'm guessing that the flows are 10-20 gpm.

The detector check valve on the main supply has a bypass meter. We did some calculations showing that the losses through this bypass at 10-20 gpm would cause the main check valve to also open. This would void the readings from the bypass meter.

The only other thing I can think of is a bucket/stopwatch method using a common 5-gallon plastic pail. It's decidedly low tech and is like something that you'd do in your back yard. But it should be effective. I'm wondering if some source would have documentation for this test method. For instance, the Bureau of Reclamation has methods of measuring flow that are practical and low tech, but they don't have anything on a bucket test. It is covered on the sites of some residential well companies to determine the production of residential well pumps. Having some documentation would lend some authority to what we are proposing.

In any case, can anyone think of any other suggestions for measuring these flows?
 
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You may want to consider using a clamp-on ultrasonic flow meter. No need to modify the pipes provided that there are suitable straight lengths to measure the flow with the equipment.

There may be some companies in your local that can do this for you, so no need to actually acquire the flowmeter.

Daniel
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
 
Thanks Daniel,

That might work for the 1" pipe because there is some straight length available. For the 4" pipe, there isn't much straight length, and the pipe isn't flowing full.


 
Can't you install it on the pump's suction?

Daniel
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
 
Bucket.

U/S won't work on the inlet line as the flow / velocity is too low.

You might be able to work it out from the orifice size of the relief valve if you know the pressure and details of the relief valve.



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Little Inch: You're right. The inlet is 8" and the fire pumps are rated for 1000 gpm in normal operation.

The relief valve is spring loaded and adjustable, and the name plate is all beat up. We'd need to rely on the pressure gauges and manufacturer's literature again. All these things are 40 years old. It was bad enough getting pump curves from the pump manufacturers. I'm afraid that this would introduce different variables and calculations into the situation and will also end up inconclusively. Analyzing old stuff is always a challenge.

We're scheduled to do the bucket test tomorrow, unless another idea supersedes it. I think that this is becoming a situation in which it will be better to be approximately correct than exactly wrong.

I really appreciate the thought and the input.

 
If the flow is 20 gpm, it will take 15 seconds to fill a 5-gallon bucket. I'll handle the bucket and get wet. Another person will handle the stop watch and should be able to time it to +/- 1 second. Then our accuracy would be 1/15 or +/- 1.3 gpm. That would be acceptable in my opinion. We also want to get actual measurements on the bucket because a standard 5-gallon bucket has a fill line and will hold 5.8 gallons when filled to the top.

I like this low tech hands-on work. Good thing it's not a sodium hydroxide system.
 
Go with the bucket method. It's simple and accurate enough.
Even good enough for government work, as they say.
Ted
 
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