Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

  • Congratulations waross on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

Mechanical testing of notched specimens

Status
Not open for further replies.

davepenney

Aerospace
Sep 23, 2009
7
Hi there,

I am currently testing a certain metal in a notched tensile test piece and standard dog-bone/straight test piece. The notched test piece average ultimate stress is HIGHER than the straight test piece ultimate stress. Any reasons for this? I thought the notch would act as a stress-raiser and produce lower results?

Thanks very much,

Dave

 
Replies continue below

Recommended for you

davepenney;
Well, assumming your tensile test procedure and specimen geometry were in accordance with ASTM E8 and this certain metal (which you have not identified) exhibits work hardening and lower notch sensitivity characteristics; these factors alone could result in a ratio of notched/smooth bar tensile test values greater than 1.0.

You really would need to provide more information for a definitive answer. Also, you might be interested in reading the excerpt below

 
Sounds like you are seeinge effects of triaxial constraint as explained in metengr’s reference (last paragraph in first column). The same reasons explain why soldered and brazed joints are very strong when thin enough; the surrounding material is providing lateral constraint, minimizing shear, minimizing dslcn motion, etc...
 
Hi there,

Good info, thanks for that. It's MP35N, the mother-of-all steels as far as I can tell. It's got ridiculous properties, but is apparently a good 25% stronger as a notched specimen.

Thanks again,

Dave
 
MP35N is not steel, as it does not contain any Fe. It is properly termed a multiphase alloy, consisting of Ni-Co-Cr-Mo. This alloy has incredible strength and toughness, hence its use in the highest strength aerospace fasteners and other exotic applications. It will definitely have a notch sensitivity ratio > 1, meaning it is notch strengthened. The following reference has some additional information regarding composition, microstructure, properties, etc.


 
Yes sorry about that, I knew it wasn't a steel actually, slip of the keyboard!

Because it has no Fe, is that why the tri-axial stress concentration strengthens it? Is the strengthening phenomonon of tri-axial stress only applicable to some non-Fe materials?

Thanks again,

Dave
 
Dave,

No, the phenomenon of notch strengthening (also called notch ductility) applies to many different metals, including Fe-, Ni-, Al-, and Ti-based alloys. It is dependent upon the microstructure, not the predominant atomic species. Perform a Google search of "notch ductility" or "notch strengthening" and you will find more references on the subject. Here is one short article that shows some relative rankings of various alloys:

 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor