JoshPlumSE
Structural
- Aug 15, 2008
- 10,352
Looking at the 2013 MSJC code for "wall design for out-of-plane loads" there are some new provisions that did not exist in previous versions of the code.
Section 9.3.5.4.2 is the traditional out of plane wall design. Axial stress is limited to a maximum of 0.2*f'm. But, if you're h/t ratio is greater than 30, the axial stress is limited to 0.05*f'm.
However, section 9.3.5.4.3 gives a new alternate method that used a moment magnifier where your wall moment are magnified by a factor along the lines of 1/(1-Pu/Pe). Very familiar to those of use who have done P-little delta calculations in steel or concrete or such. But, still very much new to the MSJC.
Now, the question / concern that I have is that this new alternate method has no limits on it. We've been limited the axial force in masonry walls for the last 30+ years.
Now, I've run some numbers and the 0.2*f'm approximately corresponds to the Pe value, so this isn't really any less conservative for shorter walls. But, for slender walls (h/t>30), the allowable axial load has gone up by a lot.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these new provisions? What are you doing for slender masonry walls? Are you still limiting the axial forces, or are you using these new code provisions to bravely go where we haven't been allowed to go for 30+ years?
Section 9.3.5.4.2 is the traditional out of plane wall design. Axial stress is limited to a maximum of 0.2*f'm. But, if you're h/t ratio is greater than 30, the axial stress is limited to 0.05*f'm.
However, section 9.3.5.4.3 gives a new alternate method that used a moment magnifier where your wall moment are magnified by a factor along the lines of 1/(1-Pu/Pe). Very familiar to those of use who have done P-little delta calculations in steel or concrete or such. But, still very much new to the MSJC.
Now, the question / concern that I have is that this new alternate method has no limits on it. We've been limited the axial force in masonry walls for the last 30+ years.
Now, I've run some numbers and the 0.2*f'm approximately corresponds to the Pe value, so this isn't really any less conservative for shorter walls. But, for slender walls (h/t>30), the allowable axial load has gone up by a lot.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these new provisions? What are you doing for slender masonry walls? Are you still limiting the axial forces, or are you using these new code provisions to bravely go where we haven't been allowed to go for 30+ years?