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MS Degree from elite university. PhD from low university worth it? 11

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WindTunnel866

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Apr 16, 2018
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BACKGROUND:

I received an MS degree from an elite engineering university (Stanford). I then started a PhD at that university but left the program after a job offer. Ever since then I always wanted to work toward a PhD but it was never feasible. I work as an engineer.

My current employer has given me an offer to pay for a Part-Time PhD at a local university while I continue to work for them. The reason is the research project intersects with my current work, so we can basically pick up a PhD while working on the project. Their are a number of other mutual interests between the company and university so it made sense.
Normally a Part-Time PhD is not feasible but my position is unique in which my work will intersect with research, and because I've worked for a number of years, becoming very good at my job such that I can take on another task.

PROBLEM:

The reality is that the only universities near me are low and/or unranked universities. My company has a very good relationship with these universities, allowing for many engineers at the company to work towards a PhD from them on a Part-Time basis. There is no elite university near by, with exception of one. And this elite university, just like most top universities, will not allow a part-time PhD enrollment. So the only feasible option is a PhD at a bottom ranked (or unranked) university.

QUESTIONS:

1) Is it counterproductive to add a PhD to one's resume if the PhD is from a substantially lower ranked (or unranked) university? I wonder if this could hurt my resume...
2) What impression would you get from a professional who had a BS/MS from an elite university but a PhD from a bottom ranked (or unranked) university? It may be more effective not go for a PhD at all, and have my record just have the elite universities on it.
3) Does your final degree erase your prior degrees? Is it considered over the other prior degrees?
4) If you were me, what would you do?

CONCLUSIONS:

I want to do a PhD, and I have no desire to do receive a doctorate from a top ranked elite university. But I would prefer that the university at least be a mid-ranked Top 50 program, or close to that threshold. That fact that the only options are low ranked universities makes me reconsider if this is a worthy pursuit. I would love to hear any opinions on this.
 
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Just come back with the opposite of the quote above: "Well, I'm not a real doctor. My PhD dissertation was in wind tunnel simulation of the dynamic interfaces of the exhaust flow across perpendicular struts at hypersonic speeds in ultra-low temperatures, but I can't find an appendix without a stethoscope and a nurse."

Seriously, if you can get a PhD without it going to your head and sinuses, go for it.

I have a Masters in QA/Process Improvement and Statistics from a middle-level engineering university locally. Haven't really used it specifically in my job (except in root cause analysis projects and process flow studies) but I've never been unemployed longer than 2 weeks since I got it.
 
Academia is backwards with respect how it rates new doctors. To get a good position in academia you need to publish an publish often to create a reputation. The best person to teach engineering at a university is someone who has worked in industry for a longtime and decided he or she wants to teach before retiring. That person will not have had time to create an academic reputation through publishing.


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If you look at the unbiased numbers, MANY Ivy League schools have rampant grade inflation; if you're good enough to be accepted and can afford the cost, good grades are practically guaranteed. Also, some Ivy League schools are weak in some areas. My father went to Yale for ME but he didn't exactly rocket up to VP of Engineering in ten years. Besides, engineers aren't so snooty when it comes to what school you graduated from (unlike medical, business, and law schools).

One time I struck up a conversation with a new Yale ME graduate and in our conversation he told me he didn't have to take a heat transfer course. While I still find that hard to believe (I never checked it out but an ABET-certified program seems like it should require this). And if you look at surveys like the annual US News & World Report survey of the best colleges and universities you'll see that Yale does not rate highly in engineering.

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My undergrad advisor, at McNeese State, advised me to go to Stanford to get a doctorate in EE. His main reason was the people you meet at schools of that stature. His example was David Filo, co-founder of Yahoo.

I suppose it all depends on your focus and goals.

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WindTunnel866
In here, I guess people compete more rigorously for elite university/institute than any other place. The reason may be substantial gap between demand and supply of opportunities.

IMHO choosing elite university will be changing the dynamics of your opportunities in present/future than getting a mere PhD from low rank University which will restrict it. By opportunities I mean everything start from good guide, labs and colleagues to down the line good contacts. If you are more worried about good opportunities in future I guess answer is simple.

But I mostly agree with fellow members about the knowledge, one's capability and attitude. With right mix of all these opportunities will flock. I have seen many engineers from elite institutes in my short span of experience who do not have sufficient knowledge. I have also seen engineers from low ranked institutes having very good knowledge and respected by colleagues.

Knowledge is Power.
 
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