MJMinear
Automotive
- Oct 2, 2010
- 13
Hi, I'm new here. I just found this site and it looks like a great place to kick some ideas around.
I have a project I've been working on for some time now and I thought I had the solution worked out but ther was a failure recently and I'm having a hard time figuring out why. Hopefully, if I can figure out why it failed, I'll also be able to figure out how to modify it to prevent future failures.
Ok, heres the situation. I have a part that I designed for my race car. It's a wheel hub. The OE parts were not up to the task of road racing with big sticky tires. The part I designed is forged out of 4340 steel, machined, through hardened to ~RC52 and then the critical dimensions are finish ground. The part has the wheel flange and shaft forged from a single piece of material. By my calculations, the maximum stress this part will see is 190,000 psi. The stress peaks at the radius between the shaft and the wheel flange as you might expect. According to the material data sheet I reviewed at my fabricators shop, the material used at the heat treated condition is supposed to be 250,000 psi. The failure appears to be a sudden break. Although there is some discoloration and what appears to be bits of red rust and patches of black oxidation in the break. This might mean that the part cracked earlier and eventually completely failed. But the hammered "ring" around the perimeter of the break that I would expect to see if that were the case is not there.
Questions:
1. Any ideas why this part broke?
2. Would induction hardening instead of through hardening be tougher?
3. Is the material just not strong enough, either due to an inferior piece of 4340, or is 4340 the wrong material?
Thanks in advance for any insight you may be able to provide. I'm sure there is more info you might need to help, so feel free to ask for any info I left out.
I have a project I've been working on for some time now and I thought I had the solution worked out but ther was a failure recently and I'm having a hard time figuring out why. Hopefully, if I can figure out why it failed, I'll also be able to figure out how to modify it to prevent future failures.
Ok, heres the situation. I have a part that I designed for my race car. It's a wheel hub. The OE parts were not up to the task of road racing with big sticky tires. The part I designed is forged out of 4340 steel, machined, through hardened to ~RC52 and then the critical dimensions are finish ground. The part has the wheel flange and shaft forged from a single piece of material. By my calculations, the maximum stress this part will see is 190,000 psi. The stress peaks at the radius between the shaft and the wheel flange as you might expect. According to the material data sheet I reviewed at my fabricators shop, the material used at the heat treated condition is supposed to be 250,000 psi. The failure appears to be a sudden break. Although there is some discoloration and what appears to be bits of red rust and patches of black oxidation in the break. This might mean that the part cracked earlier and eventually completely failed. But the hammered "ring" around the perimeter of the break that I would expect to see if that were the case is not there.
Questions:
1. Any ideas why this part broke?
2. Would induction hardening instead of through hardening be tougher?
3. Is the material just not strong enough, either due to an inferior piece of 4340, or is 4340 the wrong material?
Thanks in advance for any insight you may be able to provide. I'm sure there is more info you might need to help, so feel free to ask for any info I left out.