Old Drawing Annotation "Depth w/out PL" 3

[IanVG]

Good afternoon struct-e's. I'm looking at a schedule of columns and footings for a building built in 1968, and trying to model the footings in Revit. For the footings, one of the rows indicates the "DEPTH W/OUT PL." [Depth without PL] Does anybody know what this means? Piling maybe? I don't see any piling details or schedules in the drawing.

Thanks in advance!

 

[JStephen]

That symbol normally means "plate", as in steel plate, in our business.
In AutoCAD, it's a "property line" symbol.

 

[gte447f]

Agree with JStephen. In my experience, PL written like that usually is used as an abbreviation for "plate" on structural drawings, and usually in reference to a steel plate. However, I can't immediately follow how it would be applicable in this case where it appears to be used in a schedule of concrete columns and footings.

 

[BridgeSmith]

Presumably, that would be the depth of just the concrete footing, not including the whatever steel plate goes on it (column base plate?).

 

[dold]

If you can post screenshots of the foundation details that might help us out. Presumably there would be a plate (or whatever the PL is) shown on one of the details.

 

[Archie264]

Plinth.

 

[JAE]

Archie's got it correct.

 

[IanVG]

I think it stands for plate! I am attaching two pictures of the column and footing details with and without plates. Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction! This is why I love the Eng-Tips forum.

 

[LittleInch]

MAybe.

Do you know what the P and Q stand for?

From that drawing there should be no real difference in the footings with or without a plate.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[JStephen]

If that plate is to help with punching shear, it may specify a lesser thickness "with plate" somewhere on the drawing.