Omniscient Elon Musk seez.... 3

[WKTaylor]

Sounds like Musk wants to start throwing resources and humans towards Mars like SpaceX is throwing Xperimental Starships over the Gulf Mexico and the Caribbean in 'lets try this... hold my beer' launches... and wants EVERYTHING ELSE OUT-OF-SpaceX's way [to Mars].​

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The ISS should be deorbited 'as soon as possible,' Elon Musk says: 'Let's go to Mars'​

The ISS should be deorbited 'as soon as possible,' Elon Musk says: 'Let's go to Mars'

"It has served its purpose. There is very little incremental utility."

www.space.com

OH... And the SLS program... hence astronaut return to the moon... is is likely to get canceled by defunding...

Boeing plans to lay off hundreds of employees working on NASA's SLS moon rocket: reports

Boeing plans to lay off hundreds of employees working on NASA's SLS moon rocket: reports

Boeing notified employees it is planning to issue layoff notices "to align with revisions to the Artemis program and cost expectations."

www.space.com

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OH... AND... The Web Space Telescope science/maintenance budget is also 'up' for significant funding cut as astronomers are clawing for precious observation time.
I guess the Musk-Man is expecting astronomers and scientists and technicians to do more with less... or fund it themselves... BUT wait... uncertainty and arbitrary federal budge cuts are everywhere.

'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

'It's extremely worrisome.' NASA's James Webb Space Telescope faces potential 20% budget cut just 4 years after launch

Such a dramatic cut to a flagship space telescope still in its prime will be felt across the mission's entire operations, affecting science.

www.space.com

Hmmm... I bet-ya if Musk had 'come onboard' before The WST launch... it would be in open-storage, somewhere in California.

Hmmm... I wonder what the ultimate price we all will pay... for all of this budget 'streamlining'.

'Death by a thousand [budget] cuts.' --me

 

[GregLocock]

When Cummins invented the Diesel engine

Earful, utter scorn, incoming.

Oh, then why isn't it called the Cummins engine? Hint : Rudolf Diesel.

 

[lucky-guesser]

When Cummins invented the Diesel engine

Earful, utter scorn, incoming.

Oh, then why isn't it called the Cummins engine? Hint : Rudolf Diesel.

Small inaccuracy made off the top of my head, edited for your reading pleasure. My point remains.

You'll probably get an earful for this.

I would expect nothing less.

 

[GregLocock]

When you are in a hole stop digging. Diesel was backed by big names in German industry, including Krupp.

 

[TugboatEng]

Musk is a manager, not an inventor. We get it.

Consider Eugene W Kettering, son of a famous inventor. He worked as an engineering manager for various General Motors divisions and is probably one of most influential managers in history. He didn't invent the 2-cycle diesel engine but in the 1930's he turned it into the 567 series electromotive engine that is still in production today. He also developed the most produced diesel engine ever, the 71 series Detroit Diesel.

 

[WKTaylor]

We stand-on... and all progress of our world builds-on... the shoulders and 'workings of... the giants who came before us... and most of us are willing/humble enough to admit it.

 

[btrueblood]

"I have my doubts as well, which is why I will continue to QUIETLY sit back, watch, and wait."

Except for the QUIETLY part?

Nothing Musk and his team have done is innovative, it is derivative, at least in the rocket biz. Tesla has done some cool stuff, but they were doing that before Musk bought in...and his big "success" is a truck that nobody wants to buy.

My problem with over-belief in Mr. Musk is that we are on the brink of cancelling some pretty advanced space technology to hand over that money for his rocket experiments.

 

[TugboatEng]

Can you give an example of some pretty advanced space technology that is being terminated? Less phallic appearing rockets to appease the gender neutral crowd?

 

[btrueblood]

I'm sure a person with your research skills can find items that are being considered. JWST would be my prime example.

 

[lucky-guesser]

When you are in a hole stop digging. Diesel was backed by big names in German industry, including Krupp.

Admitting my mistake and making a correction is “digging myself deeper into the hole”, got it.

Except for the QUIETLY part?

I am not loud-mouthing in any way shape or form about these companies. I haven't made any sort of speculative claims on Musk's companies on any of my social media platforms, as I, nor do you or anyone else, know where their technology will be in 5 years. I'm simply making comments regarding the (lack of) integrity in the supposed scientific community.

My problem with over-belief in Mr. Musk is that we are on the brink of cancelling some pretty advanced space technology to hand over that money for his rocket experiments.

Substantial claims require substantial evidence. Again, you can have an intellectually honest discussion about whether or not these funds should be cancelled, but in regards to any of these cancelled funds ending up in Musk's/Tesla's/SpaceX's pockets, I have yet to see any law, policy, or precedent that such will be the case. Only baseless, politically charged speculation fogging the judgement of objectivity.

I don't like Tesla as a brand, I am completely indifferent on SpaceX, and I don't even know what other companies that he is involved with, I am hardly here to be a supporter of his. I am simply here to remind people to be objective. Me having the audacity to not jump on the band wagon and receiving snide remarks because of it speaks volumes of the integrity of this group.

Glad to see my message of in integrity and objectivity in the scientific community was well received.

 

[thebard3]

I like to keep up on new technologies and also technical analysis and forensics. This has been a great forum to do so. I'm sad to see it devolving into a political opinion post, like ARSTechnica, Twitter (I mean X) and Tik Tok.

I'm sure I'll get major blowback for saying so.

 

[TugboatEng]

JWST is already launched and in space. The only cancellation threat was in 2011 during the Obama administration.

Musk did suggest de-orbiting the USA though that is not his call to make.