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Pole Barns. What a Mess 5

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bigmig

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Aug 8, 2008
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In my 17 year career I have avoided pole barns. Until now.
Recently landed a pair of jobs because we need the work. One mid size, one fairly large.

Both jobs ended abruptly with the following converation:

Us: We as engineers cannot do that or your building will collapse. Have you thought about maybe doing it like this?
Client: Who are you to tell us what our building will look like. You're fired.

I rarely get fired, but have successfully managed to get fired on 2 jobs...both pole barns in a period of only 4 weeks.
We lost probably 75% of our fee.

I am aware that pole barns are bare bone structures.
I am aware that the only reason anyone would ever hire an engineer to design one is because the building dept. is making them.
I am aware that there is some client contention as to "the GD engineer is not worth that type of money".

It just seems like the attitude out of the gate is one of hostility. We can say nothing right.
Just wondering, am I the only one? Is this unique to pole barns? Feeling like never doing another pole barn as long as I live.

Just frustrated.
 
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Fair enough. I think you do need to get in somewhere that Engineers are bound to use the code by regulation, ethics and insurance/ legal requirement.

We all know there is a bit of wriggle room in any design, but the issue I think with pole barn[pre][pre][/pre][/pre] is that the wriggle is too far?

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.
 
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