the1falconer
Mechanical
- Oct 15, 2018
- 7
I have a question regarding fuel terminal transfer manifold design. I came across an old design that had two valves directly connected to each other. The first valve is a check valve and the second is a general twin seal plug valve. In order to transfer product from one tank to another, the plug valve would be opened to allow product from the tank discharge branch line into the manifold. Opening a second plug valve on a separate branch line would then send the product to the inlet of the desired tank. The product entering the manifold first flowed through the check valve and then through the plug valve. As I mentioned previously, both valves were connected directly to each other with a flanged connection. The back check would prevent product from entering the discharge line from the tank. The plug valves are typically closed which leaves a small area between the seal of the plug valve and the closed flap of the check valve where product can get trapped. Is there a reasonable way to calculate the pressure difference resulting from temperature changes throughout the day?
The piping is 3" Sch. 40 carbon steel, and the valves and flanges are 150# Class. Based on a similar terminal, I am assuming a maximum operating pressure of 75 psi can be achieved and used for the initial pressure trapped between the two valves. A temperature change of 40°F - 50°F seems reasonable for a bounding temperature change throughout the day.
Based on my limited research in similar forums, I have seen a rule of thumb of 100 psi pressure increase for every 1°F increase. This would put the pressure well over the design limits of the piping components (valves, gaskets, etc.). The old design I came across was in use for approximately 60 years. How did it not have catastrophic failures at these connections? Does anyone on this forum use a similar setup. A relief was not used between the two valves. I would appreciate any insight on this specific configuration. I think the best solution would be to switch the order and have the plug valve first followed by the check valve or eliminate the check valve altogether since the plug valve is typically closed unless transferring from one tank to another. Thank you.
The piping is 3" Sch. 40 carbon steel, and the valves and flanges are 150# Class. Based on a similar terminal, I am assuming a maximum operating pressure of 75 psi can be achieved and used for the initial pressure trapped between the two valves. A temperature change of 40°F - 50°F seems reasonable for a bounding temperature change throughout the day.
Based on my limited research in similar forums, I have seen a rule of thumb of 100 psi pressure increase for every 1°F increase. This would put the pressure well over the design limits of the piping components (valves, gaskets, etc.). The old design I came across was in use for approximately 60 years. How did it not have catastrophic failures at these connections? Does anyone on this forum use a similar setup. A relief was not used between the two valves. I would appreciate any insight on this specific configuration. I think the best solution would be to switch the order and have the plug valve first followed by the check valve or eliminate the check valve altogether since the plug valve is typically closed unless transferring from one tank to another. Thank you.