Radioactivity

[Andrey29R]

I propose to combine, using emitters of electromagnetic waves and radiation, electromagnetic waves of different lengths - radio waves and radioactivity. So that there are ripples of radioactivity on an electromagnetic wave of high power and length (like ripples of small waves on a large sea wave). An electromagnetic wave of great length and power (radio wave) acts as a carrier of radioactivity. This can increase the distance of radioactivity and allow you to change the properties of radioactive elements over a long distance. Which can be used to deactivate radioactive waste from a safe distance.
This can be determined experimentally by combining high-power electromagnetic waves and different types of radiation. For example, directing electromagnetic and radioactive radiation in a cross direction and measuring the radioactivity level in the direction of electromagnetic radiation.
It will be interesting to read the opinions of experts on this matter.

 

[IRstuff]

You seem to be confused; radioactivity, at least, of the ionizing variety are carried by particles, not waves and no amount of RF emission can boost radioactivity.

 

[Andrey29R]

It is possible that this method can be used to speed up the decay of radioactive elements.

 

[georgeverghese]

So you think you can bombard a slowly decaying nucleus with long wave high amplitude RF waves in order to speed up the nuclear disintegration ?

 

[Andrey29R]

The basic idea is to use high-power electromagnetic waves as a carrier of radioactivity to change the properties of radioactive elements at a large and safe distance. This is just a guess. I wonder what experts think about this topic.

 

[IRstuff]

use high-power electromagnetic waves as a carrier of radioactivity

This phrase is nonsense. EM waves, are radio-frequency (RF) waves, meaning they can be used for radio communications and have nothing to do with radioactivity, which is nuclei disintegrating.

Again, EM waves cannot affect radioactivity and vice-versa.

This does not require experts, only high school physics.

 

[Andrey29R]

This phrase is nonsense. EM waves, are radio-frequency (RF) waves, meaning they can be used for radio communications and have nothing to do with radioactivity, which is nuclei disintegrating.

Again, EM waves cannot affect radioactivity and vice-versa.

This does not require experts, only high school physics.

The hypothesis is that high-power electromagnetic waves, interacting with a flow of radioactive elements, will act as a transporter of radioactivity over a long distance and will influence radioactive elements from this distance.

 

[georgeverghese]

You mean augmenting a particulate very high energy alpha ray beam with a high power RF beam so it can travel longer distances to accelerate radioactive decay of some remote located radioactive substance ?

 

[Andrey29R]

You mean augmenting a particulate very high energy alpha ray beam with a high power RF beam so it can travel longer distances to accelerate radioactive decay of some remote located radioactive substance ?

In general, yes. A powerful electromagnetic wave acts as a medium, a flow, a means of transporting a radioactive agent to influence radioactive elements at a great distance.

 

[PlinkoEng]

So throwing around radioactive sources with elctromagnets to activate some sort of fuel to help it decay?

 

[Andrey29R]

So throwing around radioactive sources with elctromagnets to activate some sort of fuel to help it decay?

Perhaps a powerful electromagnetic wave could act as a means for transmitting radioactivity. That is, by combining electromagnetic and radioactive radiation, it might be possible to influence radioactive elements at a great distance.

 

[PlinkoEng]

Perhaps a powerful electromagnetic wave could act as a means for transmitting radioactivity. That is, by combining electromagnetic and radioactive radiation, it might be possible to influence radioactive elements at a great distance.

All I can really say is why? You are creating an affluent of radioactive material using a huge amount of energy to accomplish what exactly? The cost and energy would be great exorbitant and you would end up with activated material all over the place. If that was done on any scale it seems like it's mostly just a slightly controlled dirty bomb?

 

[Andrey29R]

All I can really say is why? You are creating an affluent of radioactive material using a huge amount of energy to accomplish what exactly? The cost and energy would be great exorbitant and you would end up with activated material all over the place. If that was done on any scale it seems like it's mostly just a slightly controlled dirty bomb?

The goal is the opposite - deactivation of radioactive waste and other dangerous radioactive substances from a safe distance. This is only an assumption.

 

[PlinkoEng]

The goal is the opposite - deactivation of radioactive waste and other dangerous radioactive substances from a safe distance. This is only an assumption.

That is a very complicated question. Your basically talking about forcing elements to the line of stability. The complexities of doing that changes for literally every isotope you are going after. There are multiple isotopes for every element and every single one has different cross sections for interactions with different particles. The way we do that now is time, reactors, particle accelerators or you could argue bombs. You can't just blast EM, particles or sources at a pile of radioactive stuff and get a predictable safe result.

I think you need to learn a bit more about interaction cross sections, interaction types and resultants that occur from interactions. I may just be out of my depth but it doesn't make any sense to me.

Even the idea of moving mass with EM waves is confusing. That's like pushing a mountain by throwing handfuls of sand at it. You can manipulate matter with magnetism if it's polar and the magnetism is strong enough. That's essentially how plasma is controlled in a Tokamak fusion reactor.

 

[Andrey29R]

Thank you for your opinion. Perhaps it can be done with a small dose of radiation, but over time, that is, deliver a small portion of radiation, so to speak, by an electromagnetic wave over a long period of time. That is, accumulate the effect. This is just a question for discussion. If it helps to somehow cope with the nuclear danger, it will be good.

 

[PlinkoEng]

Thank you for your opinion. Perhaps it can be done with a small dose of radiation, but over time, that is, deliver a small portion of radiation, so to speak, by an electromagnetic wave over a long period of time. That is, accumulate the effect. This is just a question for discussion. If it helps to somehow cope with the nuclear danger, it will be good.

How are you moving a source with em waves? What are you moving it through? You can use photons to move stuff in a vacuum like a solar sail in space. Pretty sure the majority of solar sail acceleration comes from particles though not just photons. When you say moving a small portion of radiation what exactly is the radiation? EM waves are radiation. Any energy or mass emitted by an atom is radiation. There is also sources which are atoms. We might be able to answer it better if you can explain what you mean by radiation.

 

[Andrey29R]

How are you moving a source with em waves? What are you moving it through? You can use photons to move stuff in a vacuum like a solar sail in space. Pretty sure the majority of solar sail acceleration comes from particles though not just photons. When you say moving a small portion of radiation what exactly is the radiation? EM waves are radiation. Any energy or mass emitted by an atom is radiation. There is also sources which are atoms. We might be able to answer it better if you can explain what you mean by radiation.

By radiation I mean alpha radiation, beta radiation, gamma radiation, neutron radiation, X-ray radiation. Electromagnetic waves are the propagation of oscillations of electric and magnetic fields in space. It may be possible to use electromagnetic waves as a means of delivering radioactivity.

 

[PlinkoEng]

By radiation I mean alpha radiation, beta radiation, gamma radiation, neutron radiation, X-ray radiation. Electromagnetic waves are the propagation of oscillations of electric and magnetic fields in space. It may be possible to use electromagnetic waves as a means of delivering radioactivity.

X-ray and gamma already are EM waves so no you can't move those with more EM waves.

Alpha is a single proton but it is polar so it can be directed by fields. An EM wave does not have the mass to do anything to Alpha. Due to it's high interaction cross section it would need to be in a decent vacuum to propagate more than a few feet.

Beta is a single electron which is also polar and can be directed with fields. It has far less mass than a proton but still far more massive than a photon. Same problem with high interaction probability so would need to be in near vaccum to love a significant distance.

Neutrons do not have charge and are more massive than a proton. They don't react to fields and also would not be affected by photons.

The simple answer to your question is no. You can't use EM Waves to propagate radioactive particles through matter to lower the activity of radioisotopes.

 

[Andrey29R]

X-ray and gamma already are EM waves so no you can't move those with more EM waves.

Alpha is a single proton but it is polar so it can be directed by fields. An EM wave does not have the mass to do anything to Alpha. Due to it's high interaction cross section it would need to be in a decent vacuum to propagate more than a few feet.

Beta is a single electron which is also polar and can be directed with fields. It has far less mass than a proton but still far more massive than a photon. Same problem with high interaction probability so would need to be in near vaccum to love a significant distance.

Neutrons do not have charge and are more massive than a proton. They don't react to fields and also would not be affected by photons.

The simple answer to your question is no. You can't use EM Waves to propagate radioactive particles through matter to lower the activity of radioisotopes.

Can one electromagnetic wave be a carrier of another electromagnetic wave?

 

[PlinkoEng]

Can one electromagnetic wave be a carrier of another electromagnetic wave?

Not by any mechanism I know of. EM Waves are just light. They go the speed of light in whatever medium they are in or interact with something. The difference between different waves is just frequency.