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Radiuses on "Y" manifold 8

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ArtL

ArtL

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Aug 1, 2001
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Ho Ho Ho And a Merry Merry Xmas, Gentle Men and Anna.I am having a problem applying radiuses at the intersection of the straight tube and the "Y". Both on the inside and outside.Any help?SWX0011
 
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I can probably help you if you put up a file I can read. SolidWorks is not interoperable with itself, so a neutral file format like STEP or IGES will allow everyone to see the problem.

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Anna I was looking for about .5" R. for the outside, and for the inside, i'm not shure. But if I can get anything to work, I can then get to the flow and volume ect. dialed in.
 
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Do you think you guys could post the SolidWorks files? Step files do not do much for seeing your modeling technique.

I would like to see the feature tree in your parts to see what you are actually doing to solve the OP issues. I suspect I could learn something.

Cheers,

Anna Wood
SW2011 SP5, Windows 7 x64
 
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rollupswx
Are you running TOOLS/CHECK on the part? Do you have Verification on Rebuild turned on in TOOLS/OPTIONS/SYSTEM/PERFORMANCE? The previous version and this version had problems importing into SWX 2009. That last one looked like this:
Y-Manifold

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I got your step file to come in by turning off the BREP mapping in IMPORT options and then using IMPORT DIAGNOSTICS to fix the errors starting from the bottom. The only real problem was the filleting produced general faults so I couldn't see what you did for the fillets.



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Gentle Men I agree with Anna!! I am having problems in SolidWorks and would appreciate if you could show the steps taken so I can try out the steps and radius how and what I want to radius, A big mistake is radiusing the sharp split a the end. That needs to be a sharp divide.I am sorry that I didn't model in the version of solidworks you are using, But if you tell me what version you need, I can probibly model it for you. I have Ver 7 on an old machine here, that i can use to model manifold if it would help you. But I would be ideal if I could see how you are applying radiuses. There probibly will be changes made to the basic configuration of the manifold, as I progess, getting the best air flow for the application. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!
 
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Oops,
I didn't check the quality on import - I'll try some different settings when I get a chance.
 
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Gentle Men I agree with Anna!! I am having problems in SolidWorks and would appreciate if you could show the steps taken so I can try out the steps
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For the last time read the FAQ! You can't learn what you need to learn from the SW file. This technique has been explained before in other threads. It has been around for years. There is no substitute for studying the information given in the FAQ. The FAQ leads to a download of a presentation that includes, I believe the SW files you need.

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kellnerp,

I wholeheartedly disagree. Given the actual SW files a user can step through the tree and see how the features were generated, change values to see the affect and understand exactly what is happening in geometry whose original structure is something they understand, after all, it is something they created initially. The FAQ you pointed to does basically the same thing, in essence combining the help files, and handful of tips, and the real world examples into a single location. Also, in reviewing the FAQ, it appears that several of the documents are out of date, referencing material as far back as SW 2005 or older. While we don't know what version OP is using, I was able to open it in SW2011 without an old version file warning. Things have change quite a bit since the original tutorials were written and learning from a model done in his currently version will only benefit the OP.

Joe Hasik, CSWP

 
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Given the actual SW files a user can step through the tree and see how the features were generated
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You are drifting off topic. The thread is about filleting difficult geometry. The FAQ discusses a principal that transcends releases. You can't see principals in the feature tree.
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Also, in reviewing the FAQ, it appears that several of the documents are out of date, referencing material as far back as SW 2005 or older....Things have changed quite a bit since the original tutorials were written
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So my posting the 2009 sldprt file here obviously won't be any more help than the dumb solid to the filleting problem. Thank you for making my case for me for interoperability. And since you can open his file and give him the technique why don't you do that and show him the complete feature tree?

And if the OP was so inclined to post a dumb solid as a step file as I originally asked I might be more inclined to post an sldprt file.

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ArtL,

Forgive the delay, I have started working with the model but unfortunately was dragged on to other projects. I will post a solution for you as soon as I have time to button things up to my satisfaction. To at least give you an idea of the direction I am looking at though, based on your request, I would recommend looking at restructuring the guide curves that drive the lofts to get the fillet you are looking for. It's a bit of a pain at this point to completely rework the geometry, but not impossible. I will post the finished file when I am complete.

Kellnerp,

While you can't see principles in the feature tree it is possible to see and understand concepts by working with them. And posting a 2009 file would serve a reasonable purpose as the primary differences between 2009 and 2011 was the addition of a handful of features and UI changes. The same cannot be said for 2001, 2003, or 2005. I am all for interoperability, but the software isn't going to support it between versions any time soon, in part because changes from version to version don't track well when going backwards. New features added in versions simply don't have an analogous component in old versions. I'm sorry if you feel that I was stepping on your toes when I was simply trying to offer you a perspective on why OP was hoping for your SW file. Being bitter because somebody offers a different viewpoint doesn't help anybody.

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