Re-associating Center Marks?

[scout67]

I think I may be missing a toggle somewhere. Version NX7.5

Is there a easier way of re-associating center marks?

The process I'm using now is:
1-Left click out of date center mark,
2-Right click, select edit,
3-Select center feature to re-associate to,
4-click "OK"
-repeat step 1-

When I use the "apply" vs "OK" NX creates a line connecting the previous center mark and the next center mark I select. Is there a toggle, to turn that off?

OR

Is there an "edit associativity" command that reduces it down to:
1-select out of date center mark
2-select center feature
3-"apply"
-repeat step 1-

Thank you in advance.

 

[JohnRBaker]

When you say the 'center mark' is out-of-date, do you mean that it's gone into the 'retained' state? If so, don't you get an 'Alert' when you attempt to edit it stating that the 'Retained Associativity Handles' need to be removed first?

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[scout67]

Yes John in some cases there is an "alert" you describe that comes up. It does not always need to have the "retained handle" removed, however. Sometime though, I will need to go back and remove the retained handle, and then re-associate the center mark.

 

[JohnRBaker]

At least in the cases where I've had to remove the associative handle, it seems that the center mark gets recreated without any residual objects left behind. It only seems to be when the original center mark can still exist the this happens and then all I do, after picking the new origin reference, is to deselect the old one.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[scout67]

I guess I didn't explain my self well enough.

The scenario is:
While designing a stack mold a detail is created of the fixed side "A" plate. The file that contains he drawing has the fixed "A" plate as an assembly. The drawing is completed.

Now a copy of the file which contains the drawing is made. In modeling, a "replace component" is performed, and the movable "A" plate is selected as the new pointer. Start drafting and update views. All center marks become "unassociated."

What options are available to re-associate the center marks?

Handle them 1 at a time?
Delete all, and use the multiple marker feature to window them again?
Another process, I'm not aware of?

Thanks.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Other than what you've already tried and discovered, I'm not aware of any other approach that you could take.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[scout67]

Thanks John.

It would be handy to have a "edit associativity" center mark, similar to the "edit associativity" of dimensions.

The reason for its usefulness:

You add a center mark to a hole. Then add and "X" and a "Y" dimension to the hole feature. If something happens to the hole, and all associativity is lost to the three items (center mark, "X" and "Y" dimension) you need to re-associate all three items individually.

If your "X" and "Y" dimensions are attached to the center mark instead, now you are only re-associating 1 item (the center mark) and the "X" and "Y" dimensions update automatically.

Thanks again for the help John.

Maybe the programmers will see this, and consider a tweak to the software.

 

[JohnRBaker]

I understand completely and we seem to be evolving in that direction as we've been adding explicit 'edit associativity' options to different annotation types, first Dimensions, then Labels and most recently, ID symbols. I suspect that other annotation types will be included eventually, but of course you can always help to 'lobby' for these sorts of things by contacting GTAC and have them open an ER (Enhancement Request) to that effect.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
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To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.