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residential unit, modification, fighting mold, mildew, unit improvements, etc.

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michaelwoodcoc

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Jun 29, 2017
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At my moms place, the unit was recently serviced and we were told, and shown it had mold inside. Not sure if it was mold or mildew. It was cleaned from the unit and shortly after the whole house started to smell of mold and mildew. Hard to say if it's mold or mildew since there's so many types of mold, but it smells more like mildew. Doen't smell wet, it smells so stinky.

Causes are probably this:
1. drain was backed up from unit, mildly overflowing in unit, small puddle in bottom of unit.
2. High humidity this time of year
3. I measured indoor relative humidity and it's frequently over 50%, sometimes by a good margin.

Possibly:
stack effect drawing in moist air (two story house, has attic hatch, some leaky door seals, has crawl space, although there's 2-3" spray foam in there, should be a good seal)


We are having the duct work cleaned shortly, hopefully this week, hopefully monday


improvements done or about to do:
1. slowing down fan in air handler to remove more moisture (Status: done)
2. setting thermostat lower
3. replacing filters upstairs and down with merv 13 filters to starve mold & mildew of food (they need food, right? upstairs filter is clogged, it's always overlooked by service guys)(status: Filters ordered)
the said filters have to be very thick to ensure that the fan doesn't have to work very hard

Considerations:
1. Testing and balancing to ensure a good consistent temp thru house, I think just replacing upstairs filter will help since upstairs was always hot, that air wasn't being sucked downatairs (status: Not done, 3d printing things to help test flow, getting multiple temp sensors)

2. checking vacuum before blower fan, 3d printing meter for this. I don't want to overwork the blower motor, although with 4" deep filters the flow should be sufficient

3. reducing sources of moisture (didn't have this problem any year before, house hasn't changed in years, maybe just door seals)

Anything I could be leaving out?
I just switched the blower speed, I'll report back on new humidity levels.

Engineering student. Electrical or mechanical, I can't decide!
Minoring in psychology
 
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Ok after changing the fan speed the relative humidity dropped to 47 at it's lowest, and is tending to stay under 49.(before, high 50s low 60s was seen on the meter when I started monitoring today) The smell already seems diminished but still there. I suppose the stuff is less active with the lower humidity, or the reduced smell is just me getting used to it.

I'm about to leave and I'll know for sure when I return.

Also I presume just using an IR thermometer to measure temp on the coils can be an indication of air filter restriction. Lower air flow would make cooler temps on coils. Incase my flowmeter is inconclusive.

Engineering student. Electrical or mechanical, I can't decide!
Minoring in psychology
 
furnished

Engineering student. Electrical or mechanical, I can't decide!
Minoring in psychology
 
break out the bleach and hydrogen peroxide. Cant see eliminating the odors unless you completely clean the affected ares.........even if they are behind the drywall or in other inaccessible locations.
 
If furnished you definitely have to execute a detailed search. There are certain materials and furnishings that go crazy in these cases and become mold or mildew factories. Look at the bottom of all furniture and the backs and surfaces facing walls. You have to look inside things too.

We had that problem with the bottom of a bed box spring. Drove us batty looking for it. It was some sort of compressed cotton batting that was a grow-magnet.

Keith Cress
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You can get pills to put in the condensate pan that will control mold, mildew and odors.
 
The times I've come across serious mold have invariably been associated with leaks from plumbing. Whether the plumbing is copper, or other, leaks can occur, and also, invariably, it's behind drywall and requires whacking it out and patching back up.

btw, I think you're lucky to have only 50% RH. We're off the water, so the interior RH is usually a minimum of 70%

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