Resignation 1

[Humble2000]

I had a bad experince in my previous job. I gave my resignation letter to the boss. 1 week before quit date.
I though this will give them enough time to wrap up the projects and other stuff.
BAD IDEA.....

They started being nasty.. at the end of the day they threted me like a criminal, checking the isntrument if they still there.. that was pretty offensive for me. I didn't go back the next day .

Now, boss in the new job which I am thinking about quitting too, has asked me to give him a 2 weeks notice if I decided to leave( 2 years ago)

why? I know in one day he can transfer the responisibilities. He is a kind of guy who just loooks at his side. It is very obvious for me 99% he will say don't come back if i give him my resignation letter today.

I will lose a 2 weeks pay. on the other side I need him to sign my professional documents to be registered.
Well, what do you think I should do?
any feedback is aapreciated.

 

[swivel63]

i've had prospective employers give me references.

 

[swivel63]

ask for references i mean.

 

[debodine]

TPL:

I think there is a trend among companies today (at least in the United States, based on the advice of their legal department) who are defaulting to the second option regardless of how outstanding a former employee was in performing their duties.

Consequently the most that such a reference can do in the US corporate market today is verify that X actually worked for the company on the dates shown on their resume.

debodine

 

[TPL]

Good point debodine, but its a small world and a reference doesn't have to be a formal document or even a documented event. Maybe just a quick phone call to a buddy who works in the same company (or a customer of that company) to meet up for a drink or even a passing discussion at the 19th hole.

Its a given that most resumes contain an element of embellishment, I can deal with that but, I want to be sure that the person I hire will be a good fit for my company and the existing employees. I would prefer not to hire and then find out there are 'attitude' issues that have to be dealt with - thats just going to take time that I can't afford.


The bottom line is, don't get a reputation for being a bad apple in the first place.

 

[Ashereng]

I have worked for several companies where the company has a policy of confirming employment, length of employement and title(s). They also expect all of their people to hold to that policy, regardless the circumstances that they find themselves in (in the office, at the bar, on the golf course, etc.).

In addition, with today's focus on privacy, a manager may be held to higher standards with respect to what information they reveal, and to whom they reveal it to.


From the interviewee's perspective:

Often times, people are looking for a new opportunity while they are still employed. In those cases, they will be very reluctant to tell you where they are, in case you do "a quick phone call to a buddy who works in the same company (or a customer of that company) to meet up for a drink or even a passing discussion at the 19th hole" and the word gets back to their boss. I have heard of instances where this has happened - not a pleasant situation for the interviewee.


Making the right hiring decision is tough, and reference checks is only one part of that equation. I would try to get as many different angles on a candidate and see the overall picture more so than rely on any single one. Then again, no process is perfect - that is why people get let go.

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[josephv]

Hi Humble2000,

I think I spoke too soon, I did not know what your contract/status was.

You may want to contact the local government labour office or a good lawyer.

Regarding your point, "I understand being a professional and deal with the situation ethically, however do you really think employers are dealing with situation ethically?"

I think it is best to take the high ground or as Oscar Wilde said, "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much."

Good luck!

 

[swivel63]

well.....that went well.

 

[atlas06]

TPL,
I think you ought to change the way you pick your candidates. Yes-men never made good engineers.
I quit at two of my last jobs (one I walked out, literally), the main reason has always been the change in leadership, the kind that comes in and wants to give an example for all by getting tough on the one that does not kiss ass. I don't because I've paid more than my dues, deliver more than anyone anywhere I've been, when a project does not have any money left, was due yesterday, and it better be done right, it always landed on my desk, always.

I guess I would not have made the cut in an interview with you, would I?

Just because someone does not get along with another person does not mean he/she is a bad engineer.

Statistics say that 80% of the time, the reason for people quitting their job is becasue the person does not like the one he/she was working for.

 

[swivel63]

while i agree and relate to atlas06's opinion, i do realize that corporate america is a game. it's always a game, and there are politics to be played.

while i've never kissed ass, and have always been one more prone to argue and debate.....there are also ways about doing it that won't get you labeled as a bad apple.

unless you work for yourself and by yourself, you never want to have the rep that you're someone no one can get along with. and that doesn't mean you have to be a yes-man.

 

[fattdad]

If you were to give 2 weeks' notice and the employeer said pack up and go now (i.e., no further compensation), you'd be eligable for unemployment compensation - it would be termination brought on by the employeer. Whether you want to persue this is another question. . . .

Just wanted to clarify an earlier point.

f-d

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[atlas06]

Swivel,
Agree with evreything you said. It is a game indeed, you've got to play by the rules or you're not part of the game.
Lead, follow or get out of the way, I chose to get out of the way.

 

[dcasto]

I gave a two week notice once and the company had a written policy to let you go at once. The company also had a policy to have an exit interview. The interviewer was on vacation and I had to go back and see him. The timing on checks was such that my last pay check came at the end of my two weeks notice date. Nothing came, not even my vacation due, nor the 1 day I worked giving notice or the day a week later I went back for the exit interview. I called the state and the state law was; if they terminated me on the day I resigned with notice, they had to cut me a check for money due. The state agent said that if I had to wait for an interview, I was still employed, and they owed me my vacation.
The company who's HQ was not in the state where I worked got some nasty letters and I got all my money including pay for the entire two weeks. The HR guy who interviewed me was a great guy and he appollogized for the companys rude attitute and he and my boss both gave me excellent reviews.
The morale of the story is that companies have different rules that may not agree with stste law, even at will employment states have rules governing leaving companies. If you give two weeks notice, 99% of the time companies by law must honor that unless you signed a document when you hired on that waived your rights.