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eric294yz
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- Sep 2, 2008
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In reference to the closed thread (thread507-420144) I would like to continue the discussion. I too do many retrofit projects that require installing new holdowns on existing concrete foundations. Typical construction here in my area of California is raised floor with 8" wide concrete stemwalls. Using ACI 318 Chapter 17 requirements, you can't get any better than 800# allowable uplift with 2-3/4" edge distance and infinite end distances in an 8" wide stemwall considering overstrength factors since we do not have ductile steel elements with the limited edge/end distances. I used to work for a very highly respected engineering firm that continues to specify epoxy holdowns, turning a blind eye to the breakout requirements of ACI 318. I now work for myself and am not willing to accept the liability of turning a blind eye to this problem and am searching for an alternate solution. It is likely going to get flack from contractors, but so be it as I choose to design my buildings by the letter of the building code and not accept any undue liability.
That being said, here is the problem I'm still trying to overcome. How can I show/calculate the ductility requirements of ACI 318 Section 17.2.3.4.3(c). The solution I'm thinking of using is a steel plate mounted to the inside face of the stem wall with Simpson Titen HD screws into face of wall to develop the needed tension loads in concrete breakout. I have run various scenarios through Simpson Strong-Tie's anchor software and can get allowable loads that handle up to HDU8 holdowns in the face of an 8" stemwall, NOT considering overstrength. Remaining problem is designing the strap from the steel plate to the post in the stud wall to meet 17.2.3.4.3(c). The commentary for this section states, "Similarly, steel design manuals require structural steel connections that are designated nonyielding and part of the seismic load path to have design strengths that exceed a multiple of the nominal strength." So my thought is if I design the strap (considering the expected strength increase versus allowable) to only "be able to transfer" a force that is below the ultimate capacity of the concrete anchors, then I do not need to apply the overstrength (Omega) factor of 2.5 correct? Does anyone know where is the AISC Seismic Design Manual it covers nonyielding connections and this "multiple"? I could not readily locate it.
The ACI Commentary also states, "Option (c) may apply to a variety of special cases, such as the design of sill bolts where the crushing of wood limits the force that can be transferred to the bolt..." This seems counter intuitive to making a building safer, but what if the base of the post the holdown is attached to is notched down to a dimension such that wood fiber crushing would control the design strength of the connection over concrete breakout, therefore eliminating the requirement to apply the overstrength factor (omega) 2.5 to the allowable design strength? Somehow making a connection stronger by making it weaker? Haha, you have to love ACI Chapter 17 (formerly ACI 318 Appendix D)! Thoughts?
That being said, here is the problem I'm still trying to overcome. How can I show/calculate the ductility requirements of ACI 318 Section 17.2.3.4.3(c). The solution I'm thinking of using is a steel plate mounted to the inside face of the stem wall with Simpson Titen HD screws into face of wall to develop the needed tension loads in concrete breakout. I have run various scenarios through Simpson Strong-Tie's anchor software and can get allowable loads that handle up to HDU8 holdowns in the face of an 8" stemwall, NOT considering overstrength. Remaining problem is designing the strap from the steel plate to the post in the stud wall to meet 17.2.3.4.3(c). The commentary for this section states, "Similarly, steel design manuals require structural steel connections that are designated nonyielding and part of the seismic load path to have design strengths that exceed a multiple of the nominal strength." So my thought is if I design the strap (considering the expected strength increase versus allowable) to only "be able to transfer" a force that is below the ultimate capacity of the concrete anchors, then I do not need to apply the overstrength (Omega) factor of 2.5 correct? Does anyone know where is the AISC Seismic Design Manual it covers nonyielding connections and this "multiple"? I could not readily locate it.
The ACI Commentary also states, "Option (c) may apply to a variety of special cases, such as the design of sill bolts where the crushing of wood limits the force that can be transferred to the bolt..." This seems counter intuitive to making a building safer, but what if the base of the post the holdown is attached to is notched down to a dimension such that wood fiber crushing would control the design strength of the connection over concrete breakout, therefore eliminating the requirement to apply the overstrength factor (omega) 2.5 to the allowable design strength? Somehow making a connection stronger by making it weaker? Haha, you have to love ACI Chapter 17 (formerly ACI 318 Appendix D)! Thoughts?