rod x-bracing connection to web with hillside washer

[vato]

I need some guidance on how to design a hillside washer to
web connection. Is there a published design guide for this
which I can't seem to find?
I have searched and searched with no luck.
thanks

 

[BAretired]

Does this help?

http://www.thesteelsupplyco.com/blog/bid/105048/Hillside-Washers

BA

 

[vato]

Not really but thank you. So far I have been looking at the bending of the web which isn't giving me enough so I have added a stiffener just under the slotted hole in the web for the diagonal brace. This is such a "popular" type of connection that I am surprised that there isn't more info on an established design procedure for it.

 

[BAretired]

Bending of the web could best be resolved using Yield Line Theory. If in doubt about its capacity, add a doubler plate.

BA

 

[vato]

I bit the bullet and made a risa fem plate model. I did use the YLT to design the top of a concrete vault years ago and I recall being amazed at how simple and efficient the method is. It really felt like engineering magic. I'll have to check this model with it. Thanks BA. I wasn't able to load an image, but I was able to create a slotted hole, and yes it did need a doubler plate. I experimented with plates perpendicular to the web, but the doubler had the most effect in reducing the stress around the hole.
I'm still surprised there isn't a table with published values for this situation.

 

[dhengr]

Vato:
Why don’t you ‘bit the bullet’ again, you already ‘made a risa fem plate model’ and build us all that ‘ table with published values for this situation.’ Everything in this world doesn’t come for nothing or a quick Google. Maybe a nomograph would be a better presentation for such a problem. Maybe some of the variables would be load and its angle, double pl. thickness vs. col. web thk., double pl. width to height a/b. You could also show some yield line solutions to the problem and how they compare with the FEA solutions. Then provide a welding design btwn. the column and the doubler pl.

 

[vato]

Dhengr: Please Google 'anger management' before you post again.

 

[MotorCity]

We usually try to avoid connecting to the web and attach to a horizontal plate spanning between the flanges, any chance that would work?

 

[j19]

Maybe the attached will provide some info that you can use.

 

[vato]

Thank you j19, that is IT! Thanks again.