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Part of the answer might be that BS programs allow fewer electives now than in years past, so BS grads have had very little structural coursework.
30 years ago, when I finished my BS, I had taken structural analysis, reinforced concrete, prestressed concrete, wood, matrix structural analysis, Steel I, and Steel II.
I'm familiar with the curriculum at a local university. Their students can take four total structural engineering classes -- just over half what I took. The current students have to get an MS to get a little more than I had in undergrad. I think that's probably typical nowadays.
When I took the old Strl I and Strl II in the early 2000s, the Strl II was a crapshoot. They would ask seismic questions that required that you had used that exact seismic force resisting system. There were too many SFRSs to be ready for all of them. There wasn't enough time to figure out an unfamiliar SFRS during the test. I didn't see any way to study for it.
The first time I tried the Strl II, I failed miserably as did two other guys from our office. The pass rate was 15%. We took it again the following semester. They asked about a system I had used in the last couple of years, so I passed fairly easily. I don't know what the pass rate was.
From that, the name of the game seemed to be "take the Strl II until they give you something in your wheelhouse." LOL
warose said:If they gave me a closed book reference test, I'd probably fail it too. (And I have been a SE for 15 years.) It is the equivalent of taking Tiger Woods out to a gold course and telling him: if you don't make this hole-in-one, you aren't really a golfer.
No. Stop being ridiculous and get a real analogy that isn't some fifth dentist silliness. It's not even a closed reference test.
These codes are written in such a legalese, I couldn't imagine referencing them in a timely fashion without my ungodly mess of notes, highlights, and tabs.WARose said:I couldn't imagine sitting there and flipping through some (unmarked) pdf (or whatever) to find what I need.