Short course on high strength low alloy steels 2

[metalseng]

Dear Members,
I am trying to find a short (upto 5 days) course or seminar on high strength low alloy steels. I am interested in heat treatment, structure and properties. If anyone knows of any course, please let me know.

Thank You.
mets

 

[arunmrao]

You can get details of the various coures from ASM. They now offer courses at your place too!

http://asmcommunity.asminternational.org/portal/site/asm/LifelongLearning/

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[unclesyd]

There some good information on applications and such of HSLA steels. I think they offer some educational opportunities. If not on this site check the AISI site.

http://www.autosteel.org//AM/Template.cfm?Section=Automotive2

I wish I got get to the specific information but I'm having trouble with this site because of an Adobe Flash Player vs IE problem.

 

[metalseng]

Thank you Arun and Unclesyd,
What I am looking for is separate comprehensive course on HSLA steels, such "stainless steel" offered by ASM and "Superalloys" (

http://www.bwdturbines.com).

I could not any course on HSLA steels listed at both ASM and AISI sites.
I will contact both ASM and AISI to ask about any course on HSLA steels and post their reply here.

Thanks.

 

[unclesyd]

Did you get to the auto steel page?
This is the section where there is a lot of information on the HSLA.

I still can't get on this site because of Flash Player and IE problems.

 

[metalseng]

Unclesyd,
I could not find any course listings in their website. I did a search on "course" and results showed information about some courses offered in 2005. I checked their news releases also.

There is a members area. Probably, it may contain some details about courses.
Anyway, I have send an email and and I will post their reply.

 

[unclesyd]

Courses on HSLA apparently are very scarce. I did a web crawl search and came up empty. Also looked a couple of schools curriculum and again came up empty. I try to check out and see if they are any textbooks that might have some coverage.

 

[swall]

I checked SAE. Nothing on HSLA for this year.

 

[davefitz]

some courses held in London or other parts of europe on the new superalloys used in the power industry at ETD web address <

http://www.iom3.org.uk>.

 

[metalseng]

Thank you for all the responses.
I have received the following info from steel.org

"The Association for Iron and Steel Technology is offering a course June 15-18 re New Developments in High Strength Steels (see attached link) or visit their website,

http://www.aist.org

and click the link under Technology Programs for details.

http://aist.org/conf/08_adv_sheet_steels.htm

Additionally, another course of interest sponsored by the AIST (Fundamentals on Hot Rolling) was held recently in February 2008 and will be offered again in 2010. Please contact the AIST for more information."

Unfortunately, my area of applications is on shafts and rotating components as opposed to sheets. In addition, this seems to be a conference rather than a course. Besides, I wil be attending EPRI conference on the same week.

This is the information ASM.
"I would recommend the course Metallurgy for the Non-Metallurgist, while it may not focus on just HSLA it will give you the information I think you’re looking for. Since you’re interested in Heat Treatment, grain structure and properties it is all covered in this course and it is focused on steels.

Here is a link.

http://asmcommunity.asminternationa...toid=74f62b41ce0f8110VgnVCM100000701e010aRCRD

"

I am getting involved in dealing with issues (material properties, Heat treatment) related to approving HLSA steels for rotating components. In addition, I may have to get involved in failure analysis of these materials.


It would be helpful if anyone could provide any pointers to a suitable course or any resources in this area.

Thank You.

 

[unclesyd]

Good luck in your quest.

I'll keep an eye out for any information that might help.

Here is another approach to becoming more knowledgeable in several aspects of materials including "Metallurgy for the Non-Metallurgist". This is cheaper an you work on it as time permits.

http://asmcommunity.asminternational.org/portal/site/asm/LifelongLearning/OnYourOwn/

 

[metengr]

metalseng;

Unfortunately, my area of applications is on shafts and rotating components as opposed to sheets. In addition, this seems to be a conference rather than a course. Besides, I wil be attending EPRI conference on the same week.

Based on the above quote from your post and not sure of your engineering background, I would suggest you look into obtaining a copy of AWS D 14.6 Specification for Welding of Rotating Elements of Equipment if you intend to understand how the equipment is built. This is a comprehensive document on material standards and welding requirements for rotating equipment. I have used it as resource material for many large boiler fan replacement and re-power projects.

 

[metalseng]

Unclesyd and Metengr,
Thank you for your posts.
I have a fundamental background on heat treatment and metallurgy. I was working on different alloys. But my current works requires dealing with HSLA alloys also. That is why I am trying to find a course specifically focuing on HSLA steels instead of fundamental.

I have a copy of AWS D 14.6. As I mentioned earlier, I am interested more in heat treatment, mechanical properties, failure analysis etc related to HSLA steels. I feel sorry that I am coming up with excuses for not following others advice.

By the way, I remember reading somewhere that the AWS D.16 is NOT applicable to steam or combustion turbine rotors or blading, camshafts, or power transmission shafts. Please correct me if I am wrong. I deal with these components in my work.

Thank You.

 

[metengr]

metalseng;
It seems like as your original post increases with responses you are letting more of the cat out of the bag regarding your background and work. There is a whole lot more to steam and gas turbine rotors than understanding HSLA steels. You have advanced technology where gas turbines and steam turbines are using higher temperature alloys, and HSLA is not in this category. Blading for steam and gas turbines ranges from martensitic stainless steels to Ni/Co-base alloys.

Regarding your question, AWS 14.6 would not deal specific to turbine rotors. However, you can use AWS D14.6 for guidance in weld repairs to turbine rotor shafts and for pump components that contain damage and need refurbishment. Building new rotors and refurbishment are two separate worlds.

If you want to really understand gas and turbine rotors, I would suggest you look for seminars by Steam Path, Inc or GE and Siemens or other turbine OEM's.

This is just some friendly advice from someone that has been down a similar path some time ago.

 

[metalseng]

Metengr,
Thank you for the information.

 

[unclesyd]

You might want to checkout this site.

http://www.worldautosteel.org/newsroom.do?id=1

 

[metalseng]

Thank you.