brav
Civil/Environmental
- Aug 27, 2020
- 3
Hello all,
TL;DR: A few questions about contemporary public sidewalk specs
1) If modern practice stresses the importance of free draining bases for most new roadway construction, why do so many design standards still allow/spec dense graded / crusher run for base material? It seems that this practice is a carryover from a time when we thought that the most important function of a base layer was to add to structural capacity rather than to help move water away from our structures.
2) If most agencies abandoned jointed reinforced concrete pavements long ago, then why do we still see these techniques often used in sidewalk construction? Do you still use reinforcement in your sidewalk structures? If so, why in sidewalks but not in jointed plain concrete roadway construction?
3) Do you use transverse expansion joints in your long sidewalk projects? If so, at what intervals? If not, why not?
4) Why do most places allow hand/tool jointing of concrete sidewalks? All my concrete knowledge tells me that joints must be at least 1/3 of the thickness of the slab. Most concrete details spec at least 4" thick concrete, many 6".
I'm updating my municipality's standard details and specifications (which haven't been substantially updated in ~50 years). Although I'm sure other agencies are in similar situations, it seems our specs are particularly dated. For example, our standard concrete roadway detail was still based around JRCP with 5"-7" thick slabs and 40'-60' joint spacing. Perhaps more troubling, none of our pavement details include base drainage structures despite our mountainous locale receiving 45"+ of rainfall per year and sitting near the 40th parallel (i.e. we experience a *lot* of freeze/thaw cycles). I'm now on my sidewalk spec, and after having recently updated our concrete pavement specification I am caught wondering why I shouldn't make similar changes to my sidewalk structures. Basically, if jointed plain concrete pavement is the typical preferred treatment for local roads with low truck volumes, why wouldn't we design sidewalks in the same way?
Thanks!
TL;DR: A few questions about contemporary public sidewalk specs
1) If modern practice stresses the importance of free draining bases for most new roadway construction, why do so many design standards still allow/spec dense graded / crusher run for base material? It seems that this practice is a carryover from a time when we thought that the most important function of a base layer was to add to structural capacity rather than to help move water away from our structures.
2) If most agencies abandoned jointed reinforced concrete pavements long ago, then why do we still see these techniques often used in sidewalk construction? Do you still use reinforcement in your sidewalk structures? If so, why in sidewalks but not in jointed plain concrete roadway construction?
3) Do you use transverse expansion joints in your long sidewalk projects? If so, at what intervals? If not, why not?
4) Why do most places allow hand/tool jointing of concrete sidewalks? All my concrete knowledge tells me that joints must be at least 1/3 of the thickness of the slab. Most concrete details spec at least 4" thick concrete, many 6".
I'm updating my municipality's standard details and specifications (which haven't been substantially updated in ~50 years). Although I'm sure other agencies are in similar situations, it seems our specs are particularly dated. For example, our standard concrete roadway detail was still based around JRCP with 5"-7" thick slabs and 40'-60' joint spacing. Perhaps more troubling, none of our pavement details include base drainage structures despite our mountainous locale receiving 45"+ of rainfall per year and sitting near the 40th parallel (i.e. we experience a *lot* of freeze/thaw cycles). I'm now on my sidewalk spec, and after having recently updated our concrete pavement specification I am caught wondering why I shouldn't make similar changes to my sidewalk structures. Basically, if jointed plain concrete pavement is the typical preferred treatment for local roads with low truck volumes, why wouldn't we design sidewalks in the same way?
Thanks!