mikesg
Structural
- May 26, 2006
- 49
Dear colleagues,
I am working on a steel project and am struggling with the recurring question whether (and when) the roof sheeting provides lateral restraint to the top flange of the purlins when calculating for gravity loads assuming the purlins work as single-span pinned beams.
Our code contains a statement that they do without providing a way to actally calculate this based on the properties of the beams and the sheeting. Russinan SNIP for steel structures also states this. Eurocode3 on the other hand provides formulae to calculate the required and provided strength and stiffness (EC1993-3-1, pt 10.1) based on the geometry of the roof, sheeting and beam section. However if I check the sections and distances between purlins that are typically accepted in our practice it turns out that the purlins cannot be considered as fully restrained. Especially if the sections are hot rolled and taller than 140mm (5.5") and the sheeting is more than 40mm(1.6") high. Thin and torsionally weak cold formed sections pass the check very well, but we don't always use such.
Should I turn everything upside down and tell my colleagues, including the supervising engineer that we've been all wrong till now? That the code misleads us? I think no, because the facts prove that buildings designed this way are still functioning and have proven to be able to carry heavy snow close to the design load values. On the other hand, I don't feel it is correct to simply accept that everything is fine, always, for any size of beam with any type and size of sheeting - the correct thing would be to make a calculation to check.
Now the question - what is your practice in this matter, how do you check whether the purlins can be designed as laterally supported for gravity load? Can you provide me with pointers (from your code, or some article, etc.) containing formulae and recommendations?
Thanks for your valuable input!
Mike
I am working on a steel project and am struggling with the recurring question whether (and when) the roof sheeting provides lateral restraint to the top flange of the purlins when calculating for gravity loads assuming the purlins work as single-span pinned beams.
Our code contains a statement that they do without providing a way to actally calculate this based on the properties of the beams and the sheeting. Russinan SNIP for steel structures also states this. Eurocode3 on the other hand provides formulae to calculate the required and provided strength and stiffness (EC1993-3-1, pt 10.1) based on the geometry of the roof, sheeting and beam section. However if I check the sections and distances between purlins that are typically accepted in our practice it turns out that the purlins cannot be considered as fully restrained. Especially if the sections are hot rolled and taller than 140mm (5.5") and the sheeting is more than 40mm(1.6") high. Thin and torsionally weak cold formed sections pass the check very well, but we don't always use such.
Should I turn everything upside down and tell my colleagues, including the supervising engineer that we've been all wrong till now? That the code misleads us? I think no, because the facts prove that buildings designed this way are still functioning and have proven to be able to carry heavy snow close to the design load values. On the other hand, I don't feel it is correct to simply accept that everything is fine, always, for any size of beam with any type and size of sheeting - the correct thing would be to make a calculation to check.
Now the question - what is your practice in this matter, how do you check whether the purlins can be designed as laterally supported for gravity load? Can you provide me with pointers (from your code, or some article, etc.) containing formulae and recommendations?
Thanks for your valuable input!
Mike