Structure in elastic field

[Boby2]

Connection BD is made of brass (E = 105 GPa) and has a cross-section of 256 mm^2. Connection CE is made of aluminum(E = 73 GPa) and has a cross-section of 320 mm^2.
• Determine the maximum force P that can be applied vertically at point A if the displacement of A must not exceed 0.35 mm.
- Suppose that element AC is rigid.

I thought of writing the relations between the tension on each connection BD and CE and then imposing that the elongation of the two is equal. Then since BD therefore lengthens the tie rod and CE therefore shortens the strut, imposing that the algebraic sum of the two forces is equal to P.

 

[rb1957]

post student posts in the student forum. Solve ABC as a free body. Both CE and BD are in tension. Apply a unit load (100N) at A, calculate the deflection at C and B and therefore the deflection at A. How does this compare to your limit (0.35 mm) ? what factor to apply to your unit load to get your limit ?

 

[Boby2]

ok sorry for posting in this forum.
My solution is:

The only doubt is that the CE connection is a strut so in compression in the balance must a negative sign be put?

 

[3DDave]

The bar AC does not remain horizontal so the deflections are all not equal to each other.

If CE is rigid, what is the deflection at A due to elongation of BD?
If BD is rigid, what is the deflection at A due to elongation of CE?

The total deflection at A is the sum of those two deflections.

 

[rb1957]

CE is in tension ...
C will deflect up, B will deflect down ... A will deflect down.

 

[Boby2]

CE is in tension ...
C will deflect up, B will deflect down ... A will deflect down.

The connection in B and C are hinges and that is why both DB and CE are in traction.
Then deltaA = DeltaBC +Delta CE=0.35mm

 

[HTURKAK]

BD and CE and then imposing that the elongation of the two is equal. Then since BD therefore lengthens the tie rod and CE therefore shortens the strut, imposing that the algebraic sum of the two forces is equal to P.

Your approach totally wrong. Algebraic sum of P+ Fce= Fbd
Just apply equiblirium equations , find the tension forces Fbd and Fce in terms of P . ( Fbd=14P/9 and Fce=5P/9)
Then calculate the deflections of BD and CE . Check using linear ratios . Sum of them will control the 0.35 mm allowable deflection. If elongations Dbd and Dce, ( Dbd + Dce)=225*0.35/350=0.225 mm.

 

[Boby2]

Your approach totally wrong. Algebraic sum of P+ Fce= Fbd
Just apply equiblirium equations , find the tension forces Fbd and Fce in terms of P . ( Fbd=14P/9 and Fce=5P/9)
Then calculate the deflections of BD and CE . Check using linear ratios . Sum of them will control the 0.35 mm allowable deflection. If elongations Dbd and Dce, ( Dbd + Dce)=225*0.35/350=0.225 mm.

The algebraic sum should not be: P+Fbd=Fce because Fbd is in compression directed downwards and Fce is in tension directed upwards.

 

[3DDave]

BD is in tension pulling upwards from B. Nothing is in compression.

Fbd-P-Fce = 0; rearranged Fbd = P + Fce, which is what Hturkak wrote.

Fbd pulls up, P and Fce pull down on A-B-C.

 

[Boby2]

BD is in tension pulling upwards from B. Nothing is in compression.

Fbd-P-Fce = 0; rearranged Fbd = P + Fce, which is what Hturkak wrote.

Fbd pulls up, P and Fce pull down on A-B-C.

Ok thank you so much.