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[TigerGuy]

https://amp-abc-net-au.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/102381864

Why do people not understand the need of quality subsurface investigations?

 

[TugboatEng]

It's astonishing that geotech would cost $100million. This is the pattern. Spend the money on the nebulous zero value added portions of the job. With the amount of money already allocated is geotech ever going to return a report of unfeasible?

 

[dik]

concur...

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[Tomfh]

I’m surprised at all the armchair experts here who put this down to simple negligence.

The ground has lots of surprises.

 

[davidbeach]

The ground has lots of surprises.

When, as I’ve heard, Portland’s Tri-Met was preparing to build the tunnel through the West Hills the Geotech had worked up the subsurface conditions under the two tracks of the east approach. The approach wasn’t straight but managed to straddle a long defunct creek bed. Addressing that slowed getting the boring machine into the rock.

I’ll see your silver lining and raise you two black clouds. - Protection Operations

 

[dik]

...after spending $100M, it shouldn't have. There's always the possibility for something different happening with soils. The general geology of the soils/formation should have been determined. This would be a 'heads up'. I'm pretty sure there was an element of negligence.

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[GregLocock]

Here's the reason for my cynicism

https://grattan.edu.au/report/the-rise-of-megaprojects-counting-the-costs/

never mind Defence spending.



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[SnTMan]

1. It's just tax money

2. We only owe it to ourselves

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

...but your grandchildren, will be burdened by, and paying back your excesses! Almost seems selfish.

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[SnTMan]

dik, you might not know or recall, #2 was roughly quoting US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt during his New Deal unprecedented expansion of the public debt...

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[dik]

Didn't know that... thanks. I suspect that one day, it will be time to 'pay the piper'. With apologies to Alistair.

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[SnTMan]

My 01:17 post was intended as sarcasm, but poorly indicated

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[waross]

It may help if you use the sarcasm font:
[sarcasm font] .....[sarcasm off] grin

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[SnTMan]

I coulda done something, I was just hasty

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[IRstuff]

Yet another example of a megaproject overrun because of hastiness ;-)

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[dik]

Confused... did FDR make those statements?

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[SnTMan]

#1 - Nobody to quote but they all say it

#2 -Close as I can get, but not exact.

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

EDIT: TBH, I don't think he was talking about 31 TRILLION DOLLARS

 

[dik]

thanks...

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[waross]

Thanks SnTMan. Your Google skills outpace my own. I couldn't find that quote.

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[SnTMan]

Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then

The problem with sloppy work is that the supply FAR EXCEEDS the demand

 

[hokie66]

In his day, FDR was correct.

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/05/t...reign holdings,held the remaining 46 percent.