Suez Canal blocked by container ship 36

[verymadmac]

It might not be an engineering issue that started it, but I bet is going to change a few specifications.
BBC piece here Link



It looks like the bow is hard aground, refloating will be an interesting exercise given the time pressure.



Canal profile is here

https://www.suezcanal.gov.eg/English/About/SuezCanal/Pages/CanalCharacteristics.aspx

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

No knights in Scotland, we painted our bums blue to keep the Romans out.

Ancient Irvine is the male side tartan. I have a kilt but haven't worn it in years. The brat has a kids kilt and loves wearing it and does so to every birthday party he goes to.

 

[RedSnake]

Good on him
We painted our bums blue, wasn't that a bit proactive wearing a kilt at the same time.

BR A

“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

It worked they built Hadrian's wall.

 

[Lou Scannon]

I guess the kilts were left behind during battle, lest they be blemished

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

no those days they wore them all the time and they were used as a sleeping blanket as well.

in WW1 The Scottish regiments used to fight in them as well.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Anyway back to the subject..

Found this on youtube.

https://youtu.be/zf4qVJ65ghA

 

[Compositepro]

Excellent video.

 

[LittleInch]

It certainly did some fairly funky manoeuvres prior to entering the canal.

Maybe the pilot or captain was so pleased with his ship drawing a phallus and some balls that he kind of took his eye off the large wall of sand on his right hand side....

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

They don't like to stop them because then they will just get blown around and drift. So they keep them moving so they still have rudder authority.

Given half the chance pilots regularly draw penises in the sky and controllers do the same when bored.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Must admit I am getting huge satisfaction with the internet thanks to this incident and thread.

Gone from my targeted news feed all the political crap with Scotland. I now every morning have a selection of Marine Transport interesting news, Some aviation and a load of stuff on smart homes and renewable energy.

 

[TugboatEng]

I have complained about this with my wife. She gets in a funk because she likes to watch certain types of movies and TV shows that have lots of negative context (rape, murder, discrimination) and after a while Netflix Amazon and whatever only recommendation similar content. I have to come in and insert some diversity here and there. Honestly, we've been watching Benidorm and Friday Night Dinner and I can see her quality of life improving.

I love this forum because it keeps me always looking for new and interesting subjects.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Same here Tug and I am more than happy to admit its helped my mental health in these covid times.

My Mrs seems to be well into learning about bee keeping which has improved the recommendations on the family kindle account no end.

Must admit after this thread if there is a Suez canal big boat simulator I am going to give it a shot

Do you ever drive the boat? Our engineers get to fire them up and taxi them but obviously don't get to take them into the air. A couple have gone to the cadet school the company runs and now are flightdeck.

Some of ours are scared of flying and you will never get them up on a test flight.

 

[TugboatEng]

Funny question. I have driven the boats (not near ships or rocks).I did manage to launch a microwave off a countertop. Our boats are 5000 horsepower and only 78 feet so they're quite responsive to control input. I didn't throttle back before going transverse with the z-drives and the boat stopped on a dime.

I'm also no good at throwing lines. I can hang a 2-ton chain hoist at full arm extension but can't throw a mooring line. I hate going out on the boats because someone always expects me to throw a line. I disappear to the engine room to monitor the engines during any mooring attempts.

I do get stuck on deliveries of new builds because I can solve problems that may arise. Taking a boat offshore once every few years is a recipe for sea sickness and I get it.

I can ride my boats whenever I want but I don't want to. Ships roll differently and I was able to tolerate that. Modern tugs are very stiff due to stability requirements and roll so rapidly you get rug burn on your nipples when you try to sleep through the sea sickness.

This is my last delivery. 100ftx40ft tug. 3 days before the weather improved. The trip was 4.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7fUdJwgKKS98xynF8

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

That would have me barfing as well.

Funny enough I never get air sick. But I do sometimes feel sick in the simulator.

That reminds me of getting the ferry to Shetland on the St Clair from Aberdeen as a kid.

https://youtu.be/wd9KjReKSZA

I barfed on this ferry last time I went to Unist in Similar conditions. The locals to be honest used to struggle walking on flat land but were solid on a boat.

 

[Lou Scannon]

Our boats are 5000 horsepower

Twin D3516?

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[dik]

Another intersting twist... I suspect that Egypt has just 'bought the baby'. There may be no incentive to them unloading the white elephant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ever-given-might-move-containers-due-legal-limbo-report-says-2021-4

Rather than think climate change and the corona virus as science, think of it as the wrath of God. Feel any better?

-Dik

 

[1503-44]

Thems just lawyer's smoke words stomping up for potential clients. The Egyptian courts have not spoken and there is little evidence so far that Egypt is at fault. Egypt will not have $1B of leverage, should the cargo grow legs. And surely there would be advance fees applicable to salvaging the cargo, so as leverage would not be unduely lost. What transparent reason can they possibly come up with to force Egypt to relinquish their claim? ... waiting.

 

[RedSnake]

IKEA has around 110 containers on the boat, but they say that the impact on them not getting the gods are minimal.
They say they do not want to comment during the process.

So I guess they would not push for any unloading to get there gods delivered.
I think the cost would not be worth it since they still might need to pay there part in the general average settlement when it is finished.

BR A


“Logic will get you from A to Z; imagination will get you everywhere.“
Albert Einstein

 

[LittleInch]

I'm sure Egypt would want a proportion of the containers goods value for each and every one of them.

Going to become a very large write off is my feeling. Now the Egyptians have gone public on the windfall they see this ship being, they won't be able to accept anything less than $500 million.

It's going to be there years.

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Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[MacGyverS2000]

Someone explain to me how I, as a cargo owner, should be considered (even partially) responsible for costs associated with recovering said cargo? I paid the ship to get my stuff from 'A' to 'B', so unless something about the cargo itself prevented delivery (such as illegal goods, leakage of materials, etc.), I should reasonably expect said cargo to make it without further requirements. Granted, I may be out profit while cargo is being held or lost (which is where insurance kicks in), but is it seriously suggested the cargo owners will now have to pay more money just to get their cargo back?!

Dan - Owner

http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com