Suppressed Components Not Loading for Drawing Views 1

[rocketgofire]

Hi all,

I am running NX 7.5.5.4 on Windows 7 64-bit. I have a drawing of an assembly that contains several views with different arrangements. The drawing and views work perfectly when everything's open, but when I first open the drawing, any components that are suppressed in the current arrangement are not loaded, so views which use them are missing parts. Right clicking the subassembly which contains them (in the assembly navigator) doesn't give me any options to load them, and I can't even click the specific components to load them, since that only gives me the suppression option.

The way I've found to load these suppressed components is to make the subassembly which contains them the work part, manually change the arrangement and load the parts, and then repeat for each arrangement. This is a huge pain. Is there some option or workaround to load all suppressed components in an assembly when opening it, even if they're suppressed in the current arrangement?

Thanks!

 

[JohnRBaker]

It sounds lie NX is working as it was designed to work. Suppressed Components are generally not supposed to load when you open an Assembly. That's why you suppress them so that it's as if they're not there at all. That's what 'Suppress' means, pretend that this object does not exist.

Now if you're using Arrangements as you've described, in order to get what you're looking for, simply edit the Suppression Status for each Arrangement indicating in which Arrangement you wish to include and which ones that you wish to exclude the suppressed component. Now you can either do this in the Master Model Assembly part file, where the original Arrangements were created, or you can wait until you've created you Drawing and placed the additional views each based on a specific arrangement and do it there where these edits will ONLY affect this one Drawing but will have no effect on the Master Model Assembly part file or any other Drawings of this Assembly.

To do this, go to the Assembly Navigator, with the option to 'Include Suppressed Component' is toggled ON, select the suppressed Component, press MB3 and select the 'Suppression...' option. When the dialog is displayed, and if you're working in the Drawing, you'll see a list of part files showing both the Drawing file and Master Model Assembly file. If you only want to change the behavior of the Drawing, select that file. The you'll see a second list of the Arrangements, the first one will be unique to that Drawing file but it will have inherited the Suppression status from the Master Model Assembly so if it's NOT suppressed there it will not be suppressed in the Assembly. But if want it to be simply select the 'Always Suppressed' state for that Arrangement. Now if you wish to not suppress that Component in the view associated with the other Arrangements, simply select them from the second list, and toggle On the 'Never Suppress' state.

Anyway, that should get you going on the right path.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[rocketgofire]

Thanks for the response, John. I believe I get what you're saying, which is how to suppress and unsuppress components in my drawing file rather than the master model or subassembly. However, that's not quite what I'm having the issue with. I already have arrangements within the drawing file which do what your third paragraph describes, but those arrangements are used in views of the drawing and aren't all "on" at the same time in Modeling. Here's an example:

Let's say I have a box that has two devices that can be added to it; call them devices A and B. I create some assembly file with three components: the box, device A in the right spot, and device B in its spot. Now I create a drawing file, and I create three arrangements: Arrangement 1 has just the box (A and B are suppressed), Arrangement 2 has the box with device A (B is suppressed), and Arrangement 3 has the box with device B (A is suppressed). I can create drawing views of each arrangement, so sheet 1 has the box dimensions (Arrangement 1), sheet 2 has the location of device A on the box (Arrangement 2), and sheet 3 has the location of device B on the box (Arrangement 3). The drawing looks good, so I save and close. However, when I reopen the drawing, the "current" arrangement (whatever I'm looking at in the Modeling application) has to exclude one of the two devices, so it won't be loaded in the initial load of components, and therefore one of the views will not show the device.

This is a much simplified example, and one which I would probably solve with layers instead of arrangements, but I think it illustrates the point. Is there any way for me to work around this?

 

[JohnRBaker]

Try this...

While in your Assembly Drawing (and using your simple example as an aid to get the point across) with your existing Arrangements still set-up with the various suppression statuses as described above, go ahead and create a FORTH Arrangement in which NONE of the Components are suppressed. Make this the active Arrangement when you save your Assembly Drawing, but do not use this Arrangement to create any of the Drawing views. Now save and close your drawing and all the files. Now reopen the Drawing and you should be OK.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Digital Factory
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[rocketgofire]

Ah, that makes sense! I don't know why I didn't think of that before. That seems to have worked.

Thanks for the help!