Tangential Outlet Reducing Tee

[jaytelle]

Has anyone ever seen or know of a vendor that supplies tangential inlet pvc saddles or tangential outlet reducing tees? I'm looking for either a 2" tangential saddle on a 4" pipe or a tangential outlet reducing tee with a 4" run and 2" branch. Any help appreciated

 

[Latexman]

Like this - 4-in x 4-in x 2-in Dia Schedule 40 Wye

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[jaytelle]

http://www.rjsales.com/products/buttweld/breweryquality/bq_tangtee.html

Like this except PVC

https://getpvf.com/mechanical-tee-threaded-style-15g/

Or like this except tangential to branch run

JL

 

[LittleInch]

What's wrong exactly with a branch connection and a45 degrees elbow?

Wyes, angle branches etc create large stresses at the crotch and are quite rare.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[Latexman]

Never seen one of those in our plants. Have you e-mailed that image to some big PVC pipe companies? Like Charlotte Pipe? I'm sure there are many.

Are you making a small cyclone/hydroclone? You can get those ready-made.

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[jaytelle]

Thank you for the lead. I'm building a prototype, in my garage, and need this tangential tee for the hydrocyclone portion of the system. If it was a normal hydrocyclone I would just buy, but this one has some odd dimensions from the typical design.

I'm hoping I can find something for < $100. I recieved a FRP quote from a large FRP pipe and fitting supplier for $1200. Not ideal for prototype build.

Steel prices are crazy these days so I figured PVC would be best for prototype.

I will contact Charlotte Pipe.

JL

 

[Latexman]

Another thought, can someone 3D print one for you?

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[btrueblood]

If prototyping, I would buy a full size tee, then whittle/cast/machine a plug to locate the desired hole off-axis, and perhaps shape the end of the plug to match the main line i.d. A bit of work with some PVC rod and a lathe and mill, but not too bad. Glue the plug into the fitting using standard PVC primer and solvent cement.

 

[jaytelle]

I have 3D printed a smaller 2" run 1" branch version. To print a larger unit would not be possible on the printer I have. I looked into it and it would be quite expensive to print from some of the online companyues that do that sort of thing. The smaller version I printed took nearly 2 days to print.
Also 3D printing a water tight tee that can withstand 20psig is no simple task. It has to be coated with epoxy etc. I was thinking there would be someone out there who could just supply the part readymade.

JL

 

[Latexman]

Good to know, thanks.

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[jaytelle]

This discussion has made me think of something I've never thought of....

I could just buy say a 6"x6"x6" PVC block, center drill a 4" hole then drill a 2" hole tangential to it using the orthogonal block face. Might not be the prettiest thing, but I'm a garage engineer after all. I wouldn't need any sophisticated tools either.

Thank you

JL

 

[mk3223]

Is it similar to connect a 4x2 eccentric reducer to a 4" Tee?
Or, to build it with FRP could be a option?

 

[jaytelle]

I need the tangential inlet for the cyclonic nature of flow inside the tee.

FRP can be made quite cheaply so long as I do it myself. I was looking for an easy out hoping you folks would know of a supplier...I've been searching for one for quite some time with no luck.

Charlotte pipe, nibco, no luck.

JL

 

[Latexman]

Have you looked into lab scale units? Spray dryer companies have some small units. Maybe you could get one second hand.

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[jaytelle]

Latexman, that is a great idea. The cyclone image you show would be great actually since it says interchangeable apex and feed which is what I will need to experiment with.

Do you have a source of where that image came from?

JL

 

[Latexman]

I Googled “lab scale cyclone separator” and it was on

https://www.911metallurgist.com/equipment/mini-laboratory-hydrocyclones/

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They do have a 4” body unit:

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[jaytelle]

Update

I found a company in south africa, trithane, that sells individual cyclone parts - apex, inlet housing, vortex finders etc. This is my easy out.

JL

 

[Latexman]

Thanks for the follow-up!

Good Luck,
Latexman

 

[chicopee]

Make your own by machining one end of a PVC stub to same radius of the pipe on which you intend joining the machined stub.

 

[jaytelle]

Based on the quotes I've received for fabricated units. I will make it myself...trying my hand at casting. I modeled a sanitary clamp version and created a mold for it. Hoping I can print it, clamp it, and pour it using a rigid urethane resin. Anyone know of a good rigid urethane resin? Flex-it 80? I do not imagine the pressure will exceed 10psig inside the part.

JL