xtal01
Mechanical
- Mar 15, 2012
- 143
Hello,
I am building a large workshop (3500 sq ft). I estimate I will need about 100 anchor bolts.
When the pad was poured almost 10 years ago, I had no idea where the walls would be or if I would bolt the sill directly to the pad.
I started building last year. In order to hold the walls in place, I put the mud sill (with a foam seal and caulk under it) down using concrete screws (tapcons).
I then put the walls in place (long story but since this was a one man build, I put hinges on the bottoms of the wall to the mud sill and then stood the walls up … they are 16 ft high).
My plan was to come back … drill through both plates ... drill 6” deep into the concrete pad (monolithic slab with thickened edge) … then epoxy in threaded rod (½” hot dipped galvanized) …. then plate (say 2 x 2) … lock washer and nut.
OK … winter is coming … I am just getting the last trusses up …. I still have not anchored the walls!
So, I grabbed for my old faithful Pure 110+ … wow, it has been a while since I did this … Powers Fasteners is now owned by Dewalt.
I started reading …. 50 deg min temp … ouch .. we have snow on the mountain behind me. We are 50 – 55 highs and into the 30’s at night here in VT.
I can’t use mechanical fasteners … I am too close to the edge of the pad.
If found Red Head makes a C6+ that has almost exactly the same properties but can be used to 40 deg … still close and it was sold out of the first 5 places I called.
So I when back to the Dewalt page … OK, I have several chooses …. but the more I read, the more confused I got.
I tried their technical line but the guy just read me the same thing I read off the web page …. hmmmm.
I am in rural VT (well all VT is rural, our largest city only has 42,000) and we have no local supplier.
I am hoping if I post he show you guys the three chooses, you guys can explain the difference and tell me if they will all work in my application.
Pure110+ …. Epoxy …. 17,470 lbs ultimate, 4,370 lbs allowable tension in 3,000 psi concrete for a ½” bolt … suggested cartridge temp 68 deg minimum … I “assume” the minimum pad and rod temperature is 50 deg as that is the lowest temp listed in the setting chart.
AC200+ …. Acrylic …. 12,560 lbs (does not say ultimate or allowable .. listed as concrete break out strength 6” embed in 3000 psi concrete) …. cartridge 41 – 104 deg with base materials 14 deg F
AC100+ Gold …. Vinylester …. 17,420 lbs ultimate, 4,355 allowable in 3000 psi concrete 6” embed … cartridge 23 – 95 F … I see a note saying “.. concrete and masonry as low as 14 deg F …”
Interestingly I see in the AC100+ Gold a note saying “ … evaluated for long term and short term loading …”
I think this was the issue I ran into years ago … are not all anchoring products made for “long term” …. I would expect it to last as long as the building … or are they talking about things like “creep” over the life of the product?
I am just confused as to why three different product … all different materials … all similar in strength …
I would like to use the AC100+ Gold. It seems to meet all the criteria … good low temp strength and installation …. can use a standard caulking gun if I use the single tube (10:1 ration) … cheapest of the three …..
Is there any reason why I should or should not use the AC100+Gold ???
Pure 110+ spec sheet:Link
AC200 spec sheet: Link
AC100 spec sheet: Link
Link to my YouTube channel showing videos of project: Link
Link to my facebook page showing videos of project: Link
Thanks … Mike
I am building a large workshop (3500 sq ft). I estimate I will need about 100 anchor bolts.
When the pad was poured almost 10 years ago, I had no idea where the walls would be or if I would bolt the sill directly to the pad.
I started building last year. In order to hold the walls in place, I put the mud sill (with a foam seal and caulk under it) down using concrete screws (tapcons).
I then put the walls in place (long story but since this was a one man build, I put hinges on the bottoms of the wall to the mud sill and then stood the walls up … they are 16 ft high).
My plan was to come back … drill through both plates ... drill 6” deep into the concrete pad (monolithic slab with thickened edge) … then epoxy in threaded rod (½” hot dipped galvanized) …. then plate (say 2 x 2) … lock washer and nut.
OK … winter is coming … I am just getting the last trusses up …. I still have not anchored the walls!
So, I grabbed for my old faithful Pure 110+ … wow, it has been a while since I did this … Powers Fasteners is now owned by Dewalt.
I started reading …. 50 deg min temp … ouch .. we have snow on the mountain behind me. We are 50 – 55 highs and into the 30’s at night here in VT.
I can’t use mechanical fasteners … I am too close to the edge of the pad.
If found Red Head makes a C6+ that has almost exactly the same properties but can be used to 40 deg … still close and it was sold out of the first 5 places I called.
So I when back to the Dewalt page … OK, I have several chooses …. but the more I read, the more confused I got.
I tried their technical line but the guy just read me the same thing I read off the web page …. hmmmm.
I am in rural VT (well all VT is rural, our largest city only has 42,000) and we have no local supplier.
I am hoping if I post he show you guys the three chooses, you guys can explain the difference and tell me if they will all work in my application.
Pure110+ …. Epoxy …. 17,470 lbs ultimate, 4,370 lbs allowable tension in 3,000 psi concrete for a ½” bolt … suggested cartridge temp 68 deg minimum … I “assume” the minimum pad and rod temperature is 50 deg as that is the lowest temp listed in the setting chart.
AC200+ …. Acrylic …. 12,560 lbs (does not say ultimate or allowable .. listed as concrete break out strength 6” embed in 3000 psi concrete) …. cartridge 41 – 104 deg with base materials 14 deg F
AC100+ Gold …. Vinylester …. 17,420 lbs ultimate, 4,355 allowable in 3000 psi concrete 6” embed … cartridge 23 – 95 F … I see a note saying “.. concrete and masonry as low as 14 deg F …”
Interestingly I see in the AC100+ Gold a note saying “ … evaluated for long term and short term loading …”
I think this was the issue I ran into years ago … are not all anchoring products made for “long term” …. I would expect it to last as long as the building … or are they talking about things like “creep” over the life of the product?
I am just confused as to why three different product … all different materials … all similar in strength …
I would like to use the AC100+ Gold. It seems to meet all the criteria … good low temp strength and installation …. can use a standard caulking gun if I use the single tube (10:1 ration) … cheapest of the three …..
Is there any reason why I should or should not use the AC100+Gold ???
Pure 110+ spec sheet:Link
AC200 spec sheet: Link
AC100 spec sheet: Link
Link to my YouTube channel showing videos of project: Link
Link to my facebook page showing videos of project: Link
Thanks … Mike