To Mars,use the marsian rocks/crystals on the surface to create energy and no further import. 1

[RichardReMark]

I have been posting here two times before and my posts have been removed becouse my posts have been hypothetically. So here i am again but now i am following the rulles i am not Promoting, selling, recruiting, coursework and thesis posting.
I just wanna have a healty discussion.
So i think we can make a device purely out of stone so we can use it to charge the rovers (aka explore further) and fulfil our energy needs on the planet without importing more from planet earth.

 

[1503-44]

Or what?

 

[RichardReMark]

Are you referring to dilithium crystals?
Alright you called my bluff.

No i have no idea what you are talking about... but i like that i have your attention's.
But if rock/crystals are not going to generate us power in the future i am supriced.

This is an engineering forum, so prove it.
I googled it:
How efficient are solar panels? Most solar panels are between 15% and 20% efficient
How efficient is wind power? A wind turbine is typically 30-45% efficient – rising to 50% efficient at times of peak wind.
That's great but you need peak wind to get to this efficiency.

compaired to:
Rock's and crystals you dont need an external force such as wind or photon's.
The rock's are naturaly radioactive as is.
Harness this radioactivity and you dont need a external force or maintenance, becouse its rock and that last longer than the solar pannel's and windgenerator's.
a object/apparatus that contains pitzo electric components have a efficienty of 50% when placed near a source of vibrations or ambient noice of less than 75 decibel.
Yes you could consider this also to be a external force but a device that can make the sound and consist of rock can be made and has been i think in the past, this is what i like to talk with you about.

This is a good song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cS_i-zDdxg&list=RDMM1cS_i-zDdxg&start_radio=1

I am not promoting this song, i just like this song.

 

[IRstuff]

Don't want songs, want data and proof.

It looks like you lied originally, rocks that are naturally radioactive are not sufficient generators of power; they need to be refined, and tons of raw ore are needed to processed to get the amount of uranium, or other fissile material, that can, and are used for powering satellites and space probes. So, these are no longer "rocks," HOWEVER, we're left with tons of slag that are still partially radioactive, and any damage to such generators result in radioactive contamination of an otherwise pristine planet.

Furthermore, radioactive thermal generators are even less efficient than solar, running between 3% and 7%

As for true nuclear power, we still haven't gotten over the Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, or even Fukushima, disasters, not to mention the tons of spent fuel rods that we have no clean way of disposing.

TTFN (ta ta for now)
I can do absolutely anything. I'm an expert!

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[RichardReMark]

want data and proof.
You are asking me to make the device? Then give you the data? and then? dance around and sing koembaja around it?

I gave you data:
(a object/apparatus that contains pitzo electric components have a efficienty of 50% when placed near a source of vibrations or ambient noice of less than 75 decibel.)
How efficient are solar panels? Most solar panels are between 15% and 20% efficient
And you are still ignoring me.
I proved that solar pannels are not more efficient than rocks and crystals (that what you originaly asked me to do)

Uranium is naturaly found in rock's (granite) even on mars, but you are constantly not getting the point it is not about refining uranium its about the waist of it the decaying proces of uranium that i am talking about.
Uranium decay's into (NO NEED TO REFINE) the radioactive heavy Radon and that is the gass that should be used as a source of energy.
This uranium and granite and Radon is native on the planet mars.

But i am getting verry annoyed, becouse i can't post my video about this here.
I have posted it down here, be fast becouse it will be removed.
So i understand you not getting my point here.

and any damage to such generators result in radioactive contamination of an otherwise pristine planet.
I already pointed that out In my previous post. That you could also bring nuclear powered rovers and pollute the surface (40% landing on mars failure rate) with radioactivity and isotopes not common on the planet.

I have a feeling i just should ignore this thread and move on...
I did my part but if nobody wants to listen, i am fine with it.
I know how to make the parts for the device and i will make it and i will see you over a few years then, to get you all the proof and data you need.

(And i know that if i gave you everything you need all the proof and all data in the world, it would not mather annyway.)

I just am tired of arguing and not getting annywere, i wished it would not had to be so difficult to get a point across to people.
I could say a lot of things.
But i feel like i have already sayed enough.

Good bye, see you later.

 

[RichardReMark]

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[IRstuff]

You are asking me to make the device? Then give you the data? and then? dance around and sing koembaja around it?

Only the second one. You should be able to apply the laws of physics to determine its theoretical efficiency.

TTFN (ta ta for now)
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