Tug of war...me or company 6

[deveng100]

A situation:
A meeting where your boss is telling some bull**** before prospective client, which you know that if client discovers later, may result in end of contract and opportunity.
That means a loss to company.
And you know that your boss is stupid arrogant creature who only see that no one opposes him any time for reason whatsoever..
So what should a person do ..oppose his boss or say be a silent spectator

 

[Gymmeh]

Rcooper Hit the nail on the head...

Always have a paper trail; I try to keep one for everything, even things that are black and white. You never know when you will need it.

I dont have a Egotistical boss so i can help you there. My Bosses sees engineers as being payed to make things black and white.
jmw: may be right, your Boss may want to be called out on a mistake, but just in the appropriate way. I am sure you can found some reason to make him feel important, and draw the issue to his attention.

I think its unanimous about any safety issues, have written proof that your right and take no chances.

 

[Ashereng]

A meeting where your boss is telling some bull**** before prospective client, which you know that if client discovers later, may result in end of contract and opportunity.

Hmmmm. Prospective client eh? He is not even a client yet! So, how will the BS end a contract, since there isn't any contract in place yet? In this case, I would just let your boss go.

There is a big difference between talk before a contract, and after. The old saying geos "If it isn't on paper, it didn't happen." You should listen to the sales guys for a home reno - then you see the contract/price: night and day.



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[josephv]

Does your boss have a boss or other bosses? Could you go and talk to them?

 

[melone]

You boss may be a jerk, but that doesn't absolve you from doing your duty to educate him/her. All of your responses to date make it sound like you haven't tried to point him in the right direction.

"And you know that your boss is stupid arrogant creature who only see that no one opposes him any time for reason whatsoever.."

Please accept my apologies if I'm off base here.

Also, it is very important to learn how to deal with difficult people. Knowledge means nothing if you can't share it.... even with people that don't want to hear it. If your boss is always concerned with appearance of total control, perhaps dragging him through the mud in front of prospective clients, other employees, or disparaging him on an online forum isn't the best way to get your message across. Try buying the guy a cup of coffee in the morning and start stating your concerns in a non-threatening manner. For example, "Remember in that meeting when you said xxx, that was wrong", probably isn't a good way to phrase it. Try something like, "I remember in the meeting you mentioned xxx. Would yyy happen if we did that?". You never know, you're boss may be weighing multiple factors (technical validity, cost, lead time, complexity, testing, etc) in his head, and didn't consider your point of view. I've often found that if you give people the benefit of the doubt, they will generally surprise you.

Good luck!