AnimusVox
Structural
- Jun 17, 2015
- 45
Hello all,
Background: This is regarding aluminum mullions (framing members) to be used within a glazing system. Our company mostly focuses on calculations ensuring that glazing systems (aluminum framing, glass, and steel reinforcing (if necessary)) are designed to code.
The Problem: We have noticed a methodology of analysis used within the industry (calculations signed and sealed by licensed engineers) to divide the unbraced length by 3 for the purpose of finding the allowable lateral buckling stress. (i.e. if a mullion is 90 in long and has an r[sub]y[/sub] of 1 in, the slenderness ratio is taken as 90 / (3 * 1) = 30 per this methodology).
Refer to the attached picture of the shape cross section as a reference.
We asked another company about the rationale behind dividing the unbraced length by three (since we couldn't find any reasoning for it within the code) and they replied with
"There is no code or design manual but it's based on theoretical column buckling. They are continuously interlocked and are assumed to buckle towards or away from each other... which creates a point of lateral support against lateral buckling. L/3 assumes the mullion is at the 3rd mode of buckling (same as column buckling) in which two points of contact have been attained at third points."
The response then goes on to say that they may divide by a number potentially greater than three due to their confidence that lateral buckling will not occur, because 'in my 22 years i've never seen a mullion buckle laterally'.
This explanation seems a little suspect, and we've decided to shelf the discussion until a week from now, and bring any engineering support for one way or the other. Obviously we'd like to adopt this methodology because we can increase the capacity of unitized mullions, but we want to make sure we have some reasoning to fall back on. We've also decided to contact The Aluminum Association, the body behind the aluminum design manual (the primary code resource we refer to for projects) for their input.
All of your feedback is greatly appreciated!
Background: This is regarding aluminum mullions (framing members) to be used within a glazing system. Our company mostly focuses on calculations ensuring that glazing systems (aluminum framing, glass, and steel reinforcing (if necessary)) are designed to code.
The Problem: We have noticed a methodology of analysis used within the industry (calculations signed and sealed by licensed engineers) to divide the unbraced length by 3 for the purpose of finding the allowable lateral buckling stress. (i.e. if a mullion is 90 in long and has an r[sub]y[/sub] of 1 in, the slenderness ratio is taken as 90 / (3 * 1) = 30 per this methodology).
Refer to the attached picture of the shape cross section as a reference.
We asked another company about the rationale behind dividing the unbraced length by three (since we couldn't find any reasoning for it within the code) and they replied with
"There is no code or design manual but it's based on theoretical column buckling. They are continuously interlocked and are assumed to buckle towards or away from each other... which creates a point of lateral support against lateral buckling. L/3 assumes the mullion is at the 3rd mode of buckling (same as column buckling) in which two points of contact have been attained at third points."
The response then goes on to say that they may divide by a number potentially greater than three due to their confidence that lateral buckling will not occur, because 'in my 22 years i've never seen a mullion buckle laterally'.
This explanation seems a little suspect, and we've decided to shelf the discussion until a week from now, and bring any engineering support for one way or the other. Obviously we'd like to adopt this methodology because we can increase the capacity of unitized mullions, but we want to make sure we have some reasoning to fall back on. We've also decided to contact The Aluminum Association, the body behind the aluminum design manual (the primary code resource we refer to for projects) for their input.
All of your feedback is greatly appreciated!