Unbreakable smart lock devastated to discover screwdrivers exist 3

[drawoh]

Let's lighten things up a little. The headline is from The Register.

Unbreakable smart lock devastated to discover screwdrivers exist

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JHG

 

[drawoh]

IRstuff,

One of the authors of 1066 and All That is supposed to have posted a sign at his home saying "CAVE CANEM". Upon being advised that burglars do not generally read Latin, he pointed out that he did not care for those burglars. I suppose that would not do for these litigious times.

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JHG

 

[HamburgerHelper]

No one has picked some of the Abloy locks with the angle cut keys. You can't stop someone with an angle grinder or drill but someone can't get in without you noticing. Masterlock locks are terrible and can often be picked with the bump keying them.

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If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.

 

[itsmoked]

JStephen...

marty007; Way up in the southern Sierras I got locked into a PG&E recreational site by some duffus with a large Master lock. Figuring I was going to be stuck there for days I cast about in my kit and came out with a come-a-long. It took about two minutes to rig it up and about 10 seconds of cranking to explode the shackle. I was kinda stunned how easily it failed.


IR: You could get into your safe using an automated picker:
Arduino Based Lock Picker


Keith Cress
kcress -

http://www.flaminsystems.com

 

[dik]

HH: looked up Abloy locks... and they seem like a pretty good lock system.

Dik

 

[JStephen]

On the topic of unpickable locks- here's a video where they go over some of the problem locks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSHwaOR_eo

 

[caenright]

If you're not concerned about being noticed, the vulnerabilities in nearly every security system or physical barricade can be exploited relatively easily. The best reference for this is all the forcible entry techniques that get taught to firefighters. Padlocks particularly are easy to defeat, and nearly everything else can be defeated with two simple hand tools or a saw.

See attached the FDNY Forcible Entry Manual

 

[Lou Scannon]

Notice to NSA, FBI, CIA, etc...

"Nothing to see here, move along"

"Schiefgehen wird, was schiefgehen kann" - das Murphygesetz

 

[HamburgerHelper]

Dik,

I came across the locks when I was looking for something to put on a storage locker. Aside, from not being able to bump key them, they are good in cold weather. There are no tensioned components to get stuck with turning the cylinder. You see them float on ebay as leftovers as part of government projects. In europe, they are more popular. If you read about them on lockpicking forums, they are really hard to pick. Occasionally, someone say that they picked one but they couldn't do it with any reliability. If you lose the keys, you are kind of out of luck since almost no one but the manufacture does precise angle cuts on keys.

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If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.

 

[racookpe1978]

4-1/2 inch, 4 inch, 6 inch, or 9 inch dia angle grinders are pretty reliable way of breaking through a padlock. A bit noisy though.

Bolt cutters are quieter.

 

[dik]

...and, hydraulic bolt cutters can cut bigger bolts... quiet and fast.

Dik