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Using springs to measure twisting of foundations

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PaulMcNulty

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Mar 25, 2013
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hi,

I am trying to model how a 3D foundation for a bridge twists under loading. It is prevented from displacing in the vertical direction, but can twist in the other direction. I initially tried to put 4 springs in at the four corners of the end face of the foundation. In this way, one end of the foundation could displace more if it had a greater force. However, I cant get this to work. I am doing an explicit analysis and I am having trouble connecting the other end of the spring to a fixed point in the part. I was able to use a reference point for this, but I can only seem to create one per reference point per part, and I need four reference points. Anyone have any suggestions on how I can model this?
 
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Are you using rigid bodies or something?
If not, just use connectors with spring behavior, or the *spring option (maybe the spring is only for standard, idk)
 
Hi,

Yeah I have tried to use the connectors now, they seem much easier. However, it asks me for a D value, when I choose elastic behaviour for the connector. I have checked through the manual, but I dont know what D is. I was expecting a stiffness (E) value instead. Do you know anything about this?
 
Just do per component:

Data lines to define linear uncoupled elastic behavior (the COMPONENT parameter is included and the NONLINEAR parameter is omitted):

First line:

Elastic stiffness (force or moment per relative displacement or rotation; force for SLIPRING).


see:
31.2.2 Connector elastic behavior

the D (21 value matrix) is for coupled unsymmetric linear stiffness, which you probably don't need.
 
I have attached a screenshot of the connector section that I have developed. I think I have to put in a D11 value that represents the elastic stiffness. I have run this model but even for a very low stiffness value, the foundation did not move much, which makes me think something is not correct. Is that connector section okay?
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25273489/Linear%20elastic%20component.jpg
an axial connector is exactly what it says it is, a connection that only allows movement in the axial direction (for the value 1 this is 1 force per length).
Are you sure you don't want e.g. a cartesian connector (with 3 stiffness values for each of the 3 directions)?
Also check your units for consistency.
Other than that, we will need more info (e.g. an input file)
 
by twist you mean rotate? Then you should use a rotational connector and rotational stiffness.
And D11 is a stiffness value, abaqus is unitless so I don't know if 1 is low or not.
 
I am currently running the axial connectors I had before, but going for the non-linear option. I am only putting in one line in the data so its actually behaving linearly (I just put in a force and displacement). I tried changing the D11 value in the linear model but it didnt seem to make any difference. I would use the rotational connector, but im not sure which moment (M1, M2 or M3) to use?
 
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