V4 resurrected

[nickeaston]

I am considering pulling my V4 out of storage; what level of RS6000 box should I be shopping for? At what level did usb appear, and what's it good for--printing screen dumps to a modern printer?

What level of graphics card would be suitable? Anyone heard of a dual monitor graphics card which will work with AIX?

 

[solid7]

I also remember seeing much furor over the Catia transition from various European sites. I wish I could find the link. Until I do, I'm just making talk - but I seem to remember that there was talk of some sites supplying data in V2 or V3 of Catia. (we're not talking about suppliers, but Airbus sites) And yes, it ultimately came down to customer options, and problems with wiring harnesses. But going back to what I said earlier - who bares the blame when an obvioius problem is mounting, and nothing is done to stop it? HINT: it's not Dassault!

The other bit about designers who refuse to adapt was a liberty that I took, because it happens everyday, all over the world. It's a really bad attitude, and it's a poor way to manage a business, to give in to those demands.

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[rikman]

Hi Ferdo,

According to Airbus' own press release on the subject, one of the issues they had with the looms was that Catia V4 could not generate a 3D mockup of the wiring.

I work with Catia V4 / V5 all the time - the only problem I've ever had with visualising wiring in the mockup is that there always seems to be far too much of it

If Airbus couldn't visualise their looms in 4DNAV or DMU, it looks like they weren't being created in either V4 or V5.

"Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking?"
"Yes, Brain, but isn't that dangerous?"

 

[solid7]

If Airbus couldn't visualise their looms in 4DNAV or DMU, it looks like they weren't being created in either V4 or V5.

You got it, buddy.

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[ferdo]

I agree. Management problem (at least in my opinion).

v2, v3...I didn't see something like this in A380 project (at least in Germany).

In fact, Airbus has specific rules for their subcontractors, including software compatibility. And its true also that some of them where not the happiest choice.

Regards
Fernando

 

[solid7]

In fact, Airbus has specific rules for their subcontractors, including software compatibility. And its true also that some of them where not the happiest choice.

Those rules were fairly lax for awhile. It really tightened up about a year and a half ago. Long after the damage was already done, I'm sure.

Many of the contractors were not capable, in the least. They subcontracted the work, many times to people who were equally incapable. No matter how strict Airbus tried to be, that program was too much data, too fast, to catch all the flaws.

We saw jobs that we worked to the prime contractor's specs - and we ended up revisiting them later on. Not because we did a bad job, but because when we initially did the job, they had no idea what "release" requirements were, much less could they point us to them. When Airbus started bouncing the garbage back at them, we had to tell them "I told you so." But it was really a shameful affair. Mostly because the prime contractor had NO WAY to verify that the work we were doing was correct. It had to go all the way back to Europe to find out what was right/wrong!

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[ferdo]

Hi rikman,

They have dVISE (

http://www.tec.army.mil/TD/tvd/survey/dVISE.html),

where they can load lots of files, different types, much more then in DMU (I must say that I like more DMU).

So again, no problem with the software...

Regards
Fernando

 

[rikman]

Hi ferdo,

Thanks for the info. I've seen some screen shots of dVISE - the graphics look superb, but the interface seems a bit "clunky" - probably since the demo was running on a unix box. That said, I think I prefer the DMU layout as well.

I'm not sure how Airbus use dVISE - is it a specialist group or does the average designer get access to the tool as well?

We've found that giving all our designers access to decent mockup tools has greatly reduced part-to-part clashes and - as we get up the learning curve in DMU kinematics and Assembly Simulation - we are staring to see benefits in these areas as well. Certainly, the designers feel that DMU is one of the biggest plus points to going V5 (after the 3-months of begging to be put back on Catia V4 has ended anyway!)

"Pinky, are you thinking what I'm thinking?"
"Yes, Brain, but isn't that dangerous?"

 

[nickeaston]

wes666:

We should probably start another thread.

Quote:
I'm a V5 user... but I hear the guys around me talk about v4 lovingly (like a long since dead old friend). I'd love to hear what you have to say about v4 regarding archtecture.... mostly because my wife is an architect, and I've been trying to explane Catia to her (in bits an pieces)... USC grad as well (as frank

 

[solid7]

nickeaston:

I'd be interested in speaking with you more on the subject also. I have some experience with the subject, albeit in some unlikely places.

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[ferdo]

Everybody has access, after a training. Using DMU for primary structure its really easy, doesn't matter if work in v4 or v5.

The real problem is when you come with secondary structure and all those other ATA chapters...

Anyway, a "new" add-in is also available in DMU, making designers life much easier.

Regards
Fernando