What do you do?

[btrueblood]

Face palm? Head shake?

We moved our production and test facility down the road a bit several months ago. The large test stand took the longest to get back up to speed, partly because it has low demand right now, and partly because we were modifying the tank (welding on another vertical section) to take advantage of the taller ceiling to get more volume and higher static suction head at the pump. The production manager called the electrician to wire our 480V test stand pump, and to drop power (120v) to the control console. After the electrician left yesterday, the manager told me they were ready for me to finish the control wiring (wiring flowmeter displays, connecting the valve controls, etc.)

Walked up and verified we had the power outlet wired in:

Looks good. Then started trying to route the valve control wiring and noticed this:

Closer look, as that image is a bit blurry (hard to hold the phone still when you are laughing):

At least he didn't route the conduit down the front of the panel and block the door...

 

[zdas04]

Don't they make right angle nuts for that purpose?

David Simpson, PE
MuleShoe Engineering

In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei, Italian Physicist

 

[MintJulep]

 

[Latexman]

Just order some 3/4" holes from your favorite vendor and install them in the field where you need to pull the wires through the conduit.

Good luck,
Latexman

Technically, the glass is always full - 1/2 air and 1/2 water.

 

[ScottyUK]

mint,

Are those to ensure that the electrician is prevented from reproducing? Smart move! :-D

 

[itsmoked]

Apparently the electrician has never heard of the "workman like quality" rule.

Keith Cress
kcress -

http://www.flaminsystems.com

 

[LittleInch]

Hell, he did his job, he ran 120V to the control console. No one said anything about this strange holes on the panel. I blame NEMA, anywhere else they wouldn't waste money running tubing to simply run cable inside it....

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Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[ScottyUK]

Ha-ha, I always figured the electricians in the US were just frustrated plumbers and pipe-fitters.

Conduit certainly has its place, but its place isn't 'everywhere'.

 

[btrueblood]

I'm with you, LI. The original cord was 50' SJOW, draped along the piping to reach a "nearby" wall socket. No trip hazard, as there was no reason for anybody to be wandering amidst the piping. That wasn't professional enough for the last production manager, so the outlet and conduit for 120v wire was added at the old shop.

 

[Artisi]

Compared to what I see every day in Thailand, it gets top marks.

It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. (Sherlock Holmes - A Scandal in Bohemia.)

 

[IRstuff]

The guy should be fired, but not before he fixes it, or maybe just have him pay to get a professional to fix it. There is no justifiable reason for his installation to mash that one cable; that's just plain spiteful or truly moronic. If nothing else, he should have at least asked if anyone cared about that one cable sticking out.

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[waross]

Those pictures belong in the joke thread. Is he independant or can you send the pic's to his boss?

Bill
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[jraef]

You can't use SJOW as permanent wiring, trip hazard or not. I'm not excusing the shoddy workmanship, I'm just saying that he may have been faced with a dilemma: inform everyone of the problem and get stuck on the job site for 2 more days while people argued about it, or fulfill his contract exactly as stated and let someone else sort it all out later. I hate to say it, but as an ex-electrician I can't tell you how many times I came across situations like that. In some cases, I would do crap like this because I already knew from experience that I was going to get screwed by the company, who would insist on paying me the contracted amount, regardless of the delays incurred from Engineering not being able to anticipate issues and come to a quick resolution.


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