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Wind Loads for Open Buildings of All Heights

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Structural Matt

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Jan 12, 2021
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Designing a standalone Porte cochere as an open structure and in going through Chapter 27 of ASCE7-16 I am getting stuck at determining external pressure coefficient in step 6 of Table 27.2-1. My structure has a pitched roof, so I am using Fig. 27.3-5, and this is where my problems begin.

First problem: the figure specifies that h/L shall be between 0.25 and 1.0 but my structure has a ratio of 0.20. I don't see any information on what to do if you fall outside their determined range.

Second problem: What are the two load cases given in the figure? I can't find where it specifies what the Case A and Case B are for this particular figure.
 
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Second problem- bottom sentence in that figure says "All load cases shown for each roof angle shall be investigated", so I think the intent is to check with Case A then check with Case B.
First problem- I've run into this in Figure 29.4-5, where it says "0.25 <= H/D < 4.0". I'd say if you're close to the range, use the max/min in that range or extrapolate out to your point.
 
1) So how would you extrapolate? The data from the table seems to be independent of whether you are on the high or low side of the h/L range

2) It is pretty clear to check both, but I guess I'm struggling with finding what Case A and Case B are. Where are they defined? Are they the different directions the wind can come from? I.E. coming perpendicular or parallel to ridge? Like Chapter 28, figure 28.3-1 clearly shows what Case A and Case B are, but that seemingly only applies to Enclosed and Partially Enclosed Buildings
 
First question, you may refer to BS 6399-2 Wind British Standard (I added few screenshots).
Second question, the two cases are coming from enveloping wind tunnel results. ASCE 7 copy values from Australia/New Zealand wind code, British standard gives very close results. (Edit: remember those values for one direction only, for 90 and 270 degree, ASCE 7 shows different table FIGURE 27.3-7, the best to do to envelope results from both sources in each direction).
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