Windows 7 and NX6 / NX7

[ingallspw]

Ok I've always been a bite the bullet kind of guy (except I am still on XP LOL!) so...

Is NX compatible with Windows 7 and if so does that include 32 and 64 bit?

And while we are on the subject, we still use I-deas as well. Any word on that as far as windows 7 goes?

Keegan

 

[hudson888]

There's a difference between biting a bullet and eating one!

Windows 7 isn't going to come out of the box note perfect so why not give things some time to settle down. I'm pretty sure NX will run just fine and for anything that doesn't there is an XP virtual machine bundled with Windows 7 professional. It promises to allow you to run anything with compatibility issues in an XP 32 bit environment. This much I've read but then again we heard a lot of positive feedback for Vista before it was released that pretty much evaporated right afterwards.

Best Regards

Hudson

www.jamb.com.au

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[BlasMolero]

Dear Keegan
NX 7.0 (and the future NX 7.5) will run on Windows 7 x64 for sure, I tell you. Is simply a question of certification by SIEMENS PLM software, give time to time ...
Best regards,
Blas.

 

[gokhantr35]

I use NX7 on Windows 7 enterprise 32 bit without any problem.

 

[Xwheelguy]

Keegan,

If you're paying for O/S support and you move to Win7, before it's certified, then you could be putting yourself in position to eat a bullet as hudson put it. I agree with hudson and would recommend waiting until at least the first SP for Win7 or at the very least waiting until it's certified.

Same for I-DEAS.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

 

[ingallspw]

I was around for XP during its early years. I hated it until service pack 2 came out. (Mostly because I never used XP until service pack two & I was an avid 2000 fan.)

The same risk is here.

But... (yes there is always a big but) here is my reasoning behind this.

Our company bought 64-bit machines last year but they purchased 32 bit Windows (out of FEAR! Whoooo!). Now I am getting "OUT OF MEMORY" many times a day. I've talked it over, we (or I being the guinea pig) are going to upgrade to 64 bit. So, why buy XP 64 bit (or vista for that matter) when Windows 7 is out there? I've heard some bad reports about Vista, Windows 7, and XP-64bit so either way its a risk.

At any rate the purchase probablly won't be anytime soon but what is the worst that could happen? I find out that it sucks, we go get XP 64 bit and reformat yet again. Now we have both seats anyway. Time consuming and fun no doubt but one day we'll all have to upgrade anyway.


gokhantr35... what about NX6? How do you even have NX7?

 

[Xwheelguy]

NX7 has been available for download from GTAC for about 2 or 3 weeks now.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

 

[NXMold]

"So, why buy XP 64 bit (or vista for that matter) when Windows 7 is out there?"

Because it works.

Maybe its a good time to partition your hard drive and dual-boot.

NX 6.0.2.8 MoldWizard

 

[cowski]

I've heard rumors that windows 7 pro will include an XP 'virtual machine' to take care of any incompatibilities. Not sure what the performance hit will be and I imagine it will only be 32 bit (but that's just a guess).

 

[ingallspw]

Oh I also forgot to mention, we have several spare CAD workstations (sadly) and I was going to experiment on those... Dual boot if you will.


Let me ask nkwheelguy... What is your first impressions of NX7? (Stability, usability, performance, new features...)


Keegan

 

[hudson888]

NXMold & Cowski,

As mentioned earlier there is possibly no need for a dual boot unless you're keen on another NON-windows O/S. Multiple generally reliable sources have it that there is an XP/32 virtual machine embedded in W7 and that its native 64bit support is supposed to be compatible with earlier versions. Personally I'd wait and let somebody else find out whether drivers for all common devices really do work properly. We've been caught before on that account and as the old adage goes once bitten twice shy!

Best Regards

Hudson

www.jamb.com.au

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[Xwheelguy]

Keegan,

I never said I was running NX7, I just said it's been available for download from GTAC for a while now. ;o)

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

 

[ingallspw]

Thank you to all of you who have responded. I'll admit, I've also been bitten but to be honest I like new and shiny things! I especially like to play with the new toys out there!

So call me a beta tester or overzealous but I don't get it sometimes why people can't move on. I know that just because it is old doesn't mean you throw it away but if we are just talking new versions of the same old product why not give it a go... dig in... see what its made of. Heck just test the waters!

What I don't get is our old CAD administrator had everyone on Ideas-11 when Ideas 6 was being released. She's gone now and now we are using Ideas 5 and NX6 with little to no troubles. We haven't updated I-deas because we are phasing it out and I love NX in comparison to I-deas, Pro-E, etc. Other companies are like this too. Huge cooperation on 10 year old software. I know it sucks to upgrade (especially if it was like the old Ideas Team Library where you had to migrate all the data to the newer version and thankfully Team Center is not like that) but you'd think these companies would trust a software 5 years after its release...

 

[ingallspw]

OOPS... I guess that's why I don't sign the prints I make! Sorry nkwheelguy.

Gokhantr35... What is your first impressions of NX7? (Stability, usability, performance, new features...)

 

[gokhantr35]

ingallspw... What is your first impressions of NX7? (Stability, usability, performance, new features...)

I've been using NX7 since 3rd of october. My first impression is NX7 loading faster then NX6. (I use NX6.0.3 with NX7.0.0.9 on the machine)Synchronous Modeling enhancements are really perfect.

 

[Xwheelguy]

Keegan,

I don't really think it's the fact that people do not WANT to move on to new software, I think it's the fact that in the past people have gotten burned by moving too early and it's caused major issues in one way or another. Throw in some customizations or third party software that also might get hosed and you could have yourself a nice disaster on your hands. Sometimes avoiding the resulting mess outweighs the opportunity to play with new toys.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

 

[ingallspw]

What about TeamCenter and NX7. We just recently updated to NX6.0.3 and TeamCenter 2005 SR1 pitched a fit. Right now I think that we can just update TeamCenter to get it to work with 6.0.3 but if we go to NX7 are we going to not only have to update but upgrade to TeamCenter 8?

 

[looslib]

You will always need to keep your versions of TC and NX in sync!

You didn't read the fine print?


"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

 

[JohnRBaker]

Getting back to the original question posed in this thread, we are in the process of certifying the currently supported versions of NX for running on Windows 7. When this process is completed, an official notice will be published.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[hudson888]

John,

Will the certification process or notice also cover running under their touted XP/32 virtual environment? At this stage there is plenty being written about it but most is hazy on specifics. I'm just wondering whether anyone can say whether it will be necessary to use it because it represents the ONLY way to support some of the older versions of NX.

Call me once bitten twice shy if you must. Maybe I'm just dreaming up possible scenarios that are going to cause us pain, but until I'm quite sure of what we're getting into I'd rather wait a short while.

Best Regards

Hudson

www.jamb.com.au

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