Now how would you fix this screw up?? 1

• Mar 5, 2007

• #2

MadMango

Mechanical

May 1, 2001

6,992

Solution: 6" lift kit for your vehicle.

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• Mar 5, 2007

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COEngineeer

Structural

Sep 30, 2006

1,186

You need to make the garage door higher first madmango. that will not work

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #4

kenvlach

Materials

Apr 12, 2000

2,514

My crystal ball sees lawsuits & jackhammering ahead.
If the garage footings are deep enough (below frost depth), maybe repour the floor 3 feet lower, provide some stairs & redo driveway to match.

To avoid the problem shown, I recall some trilevel homes in Wisconsin having garages dug into the hillside. The driveways always drifted over with snow in winter.

COEngineeer please update on future developments.

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #5

mbullism

Structural

May 8, 2006

80

Please tell me that is not somewhere it snows....

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #6

MikeHalloran

Mechanical

Aug 29, 2003

14,450

Easy. Increase the slope at the midpoint, remove concrete below that and make it concave, add concrete above that and make it convex. Like a pickup ramp. Hell of a ride in either direction.

You'll need swimming pool specialists to finish the concrete.






Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #7

archeng59

Structural

Aug 24, 2005

620

sheesh. just when I think I've seen everything. I thought the stair fowl-up posted a few days ago was a good one. this one wins so far.

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #8

kenvlach

Materials

Apr 12, 2000

2,514

Future real estate salesperson:
And here's the garage, fully accessorized with matching his & her winches..."

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #9

MikeHalloran

Mechanical

Aug 29, 2003

14,450

I have seen steeper driveways clinging to rock mountainsides in upstate NY, but they had an excuse.

Here ... it looks like the garages were built on several feet of fill.

I think I can hear an echo of some jackass braying "Just Do It!", and his long- suffering minions muttering "Yes-Sir!".



Mike Halloran
Pembroke Pines, FL, USA

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #10

kxa

Structural

Nov 16, 2005

207

Leave the garage alone. Raise the road!!!!

 

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• Mar 5, 2007

• #11

dik

Structural

Apr 13, 2001

25,751

For slopes that steep, you need transition slopes at the top and the bottom

Dik

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #12

BigInch

Petroleum

Jun 21, 2006

15,161

Easy to put out the garbage and... shovel the snow.

Elevation views were obviously missing... again.

BigInch-born in the trenches.

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #13

jike

Structural

Oct 9, 2000

2,160

I think they just need to do a little mudjacking!

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #14

jike

Structural

Oct 9, 2000

2,160

Raise the sidewalk several feet and repour the apron and driveway to a more reasonable slope.

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #15

rb1957

Aerospace

Apr 15, 2005

15,698

ok, the design is messed, but ...

why, oh why, did anyone build it ???
it looks to me to be poured in situ ... that must have been interesting (or is the curved edge cut into pre-formed slabs ?)

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #16

bridgebuster

Active member

Jun 27, 1999

3,965

"why, oh why, did anyone build it ???"

...because contractors do stupid things figuring no one will notice.

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #17

csd72

Structural

May 4, 2006

4,574

Because the guys who build it dont feel any responsibility. As long as they can find someone else to blame they will go home and not think twice about it.

There is no pride of workmanship in construction anymore.

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

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• #18

COEngineeer

Structural

Sep 30, 2006

1,186

Even if I were the concrete truck guy delivering the concrete, I would have said something lol.

http://www.krmconsultants.com

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #19

JStephen

Mechanical

Aug 25, 2004

8,620

"why, oh why, did anyone build it ???...because contractors do stupid things figuring no one will notice."

More likely in this case, the builders (and concrete truck driver and everyone else involved) did question the design- and got an "I'm the engineer do it my way" response or maybe a total lack of response somewhere back up the chain of command. Not everyone can be reasoned with.

When a construction crew runs into some kind of obvious goof, they have several options. They can get on the phone and try to get a quick clarification. With some engineers and some owners, this is simply impossible, nothing gets done except in writing and in two or three weeks time, maybe never. The crew can use their own judgment and fix it however they think it needs to be (and then get a "stupid contractor" thread going). Or, they can just delay work indefinitely while pending some kind of resolution, and then be charged liquidated damages for delaying the job, as well as incurring additional expenses themselves. It's not always a good situation.

 

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• Mar 6, 2007

• #20

rb1957

Aerospace

Apr 15, 2005

15,698

ahh, the old "lose, lose" trick; that 's the third time i've fallen for it this month ...

 

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