PSSC
Mechanical
- Feb 11, 2008
- 63
I work in industrial equipment. When visiting sites I like to look at the existing equipment. I have seen things I had not thought of and was very impressed by and seen things that made me uneasy to climb on said equipment.
I have seen in the past (when visiting job sites with older equipment) a situation where back to back channels have been used as field joints and simultaneously as columns to baseplates. It is rare but I have seen it, usually the field joints are between the columns and the columns are W beams.
The channels were bolted together through the web with no connection flange to flange on the outside, I do not know about the flanges on the inside of the equipment but I assume they were not connected either. The bolt pattern in the web was usually a staggered two row pattern. The two channels are both field welded to the base plates.
It is my intuition that these two channels are not acting as one composite member without the flanges connected. It is my intuition that the bolts through the web are not enough to make this a composite shape. I am having a hard time explaining why I see it this way (to the higher and fewer).
A counter argument is that the bolts closest to the outside flange are close enough to prevent independent buckling in the flange even if the flanges are not physically connected.
Does any one have an idea of a procedure that would help me figure out if the staggered bolt pattern in the web of two back to back channels is sufficient to create a composite shape.
My intuition is no, but that is not enough.
I have seen in the past (when visiting job sites with older equipment) a situation where back to back channels have been used as field joints and simultaneously as columns to baseplates. It is rare but I have seen it, usually the field joints are between the columns and the columns are W beams.
The channels were bolted together through the web with no connection flange to flange on the outside, I do not know about the flanges on the inside of the equipment but I assume they were not connected either. The bolt pattern in the web was usually a staggered two row pattern. The two channels are both field welded to the base plates.
It is my intuition that these two channels are not acting as one composite member without the flanges connected. It is my intuition that the bolts through the web are not enough to make this a composite shape. I am having a hard time explaining why I see it this way (to the higher and fewer).
A counter argument is that the bolts closest to the outside flange are close enough to prevent independent buckling in the flange even if the flanges are not physically connected.
Does any one have an idea of a procedure that would help me figure out if the staggered bolt pattern in the web of two back to back channels is sufficient to create a composite shape.
My intuition is no, but that is not enough.