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GD&T Help (Composite Profile Tolerance)

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KrisWain320a

Automotive
Oct 20, 2021
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Hi All,

I have been given a model with the following GD&T frame on one of the surfaces.

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I am a little confused on the meaning/strategy of how to measure such a request. I work as a Metrology Engineer and trying to figure out how to measure such a request. From my understanding it is a composite surface profile tolerance meaning that surface has a profile tolerance of ±0.8 mm in respect to the |A|B(max)|C(max)| alignment system.

It's the second part that confused me. I assume it is asking for a ±0.2 mm tolerance over a 400 mm area? Does this mean breaking the surface up into smaller 400 mm^2 patches and no patch can be ±0.2 mm to itself. Or does it mean a point spacing of 400 mm.

For information the patch in question has an area of 48384 mm^2.

I am trying to understand exactly what the second tolerance is asking for and more importantly how I would set up the measures using an optical system? I have mesh data that I can apply all forms of inspection to but not sure how or what to set up to correctly represent this tolerance.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. The bottom tolerance is really confusing me.
 
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The use of "per unit area" for profile tolerance appears to be undefined in ASME Y14.5-2018 (which is what I assume this is drawn to given ISO doesn't allow composite FCFs). My best guess as to what they mean is to take the profile of the entire feature and ensure there is no deviation greater than 0,2mm in any given 400x400 area. That said, the specification appears to be ambiguous.
 
Since without any datum references in the second segment the profile of a surface in that segment is essentially a form control, a "per unit" specification could make sense had it been per unit area, similarly to how flatness can be defined according to the Y14.5 standard:

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But since the specification is per unit length, I agree with Ryan's comment above - the meaning is not totally clear and the best guess of the meaning is as he mentioned (interpret as per unit area). You should contact the model supplier to clarify that, though.
 
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