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  1. khinz

    Stress-Strain Curve of Structural Epoxy (type IV)

    BA, the structural engineer told me he will only authorize any replacement of the epoxy after he sees the stress-strain curve because he believes that something with compressive strength of 11,000 psi should have large modulus and said the concrete relationship E=57,000 (sqrt(fc)) may hold for...
  2. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    BA or others, The book says steel tensile strength peak can go up to 0.008. But it also said that "If the small knee prior to yielding of the steel is disregarded, i.e., if the steel is assume to be sharp-yielding, the strain at which it yields is strain(y)=fy/Es=60,000/29,000,000=0.00207"...
  3. khinz

    Stress-Strain Curve of Structural Epoxy (type IV)

    Ron, I'm not limiting it to 0.0005 in/in of strain in epoxy. The reason I use 0.0005 is it's the elastic limit of concrete. Above 0.0005. Concrete is no longer elastic but plastic (permanent deformation). I'm assuming uniform strain for a cylinder with say half of concrete and half of epoxy...
  4. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/stressstraincurve.jpg/ Hokie, I've been concerned about the greater epoxy creep than concrete (details below). I'm still looking for the repair company that can do the job while trying to think how to introduce all this strain compatibility thing to my...
  5. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    Ba wrote: I wonder or curious how you could come out with such an idea of epoxy layer sandwidth between concrete spaces. Unless the advantage is more than the disadvantage. The advantage would be no eccentricity (at least internally as there is always external eccentricity), the disadvantage...
  6. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    I got the figure from the following page: http://www.epcserver.com/Structural/analysis/concrete/info_concrete_repair.asp The illustration above about form extended above void was what my contractor told me how they would proceed if I demand it replacing it including the whole section removed...
  7. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    BA, you said the centroid of section shifts to the right so the eccentricity is to the left of the new centroid, but you said the section "deflection will be to the right". Did you mean the column will bend to the left or right? If to the right, then you are saying the midspan will sway to the...
  8. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    Both the contractor and structural engineer don't understand and refuse to analyze this epoxy load reduction stuff. They told me they build 20 storey buildings and use epoxy as repair all the time and it is standard as there is no other more effective repair replacements. That's right. In the...
  9. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    rowingengineer, in my country we don't have fire rating in columns... our ready mix concrete are only one kind. The column with hole filled with structural epoxy is 1 foot below the ground floor level slabs with tie beams connecting to it. In other word, it is a joint but the tie beams are not...
  10. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/stressanalysis.jpg/ BA, you brought up a point about transformed section that makes it worse and the calculations may not be valid. In the illustration above, the centroid of the above section goes to the right side. Now do you think the concrete in the...
  11. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    TXStructural. It could have been easier if the void is still not filled. But two weeks ago. The contractor told the epoxy company to check and the epoxy engineer said they can cover it up with epoxy and it's stronger than concrete. And the structural engineer complied...
  12. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    BA wrote: Yes. I thought of this yesterday while driving and imagining the stress distribution from the top to the bottom of the column... above the hole, it is 3625 Kn. In the hole filled with epoxy capacity of both concrete and epoxy is just 2566 Kn. So I wonder how that section could take...
  13. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    The shear bond strength is on the surfaces of old concrete and new concrete or mateial. It has to reach 5000 psi too. If not. He said to imagine a big stone and a tiny stone. You put the big stone on top of small stone, the small stone has tendency to break, the small concrete he refers to the...
  14. khinz

    Stress-Strain Curve of Structural Epoxy (type IV)

    Compressive strength tests of their products in the form of epoxy cubes are done and strength can reach up to 8,000 psi. But for a cylinder the height of 8 inches or 200mm. A strain of 0.0005 would be only 0.1mm and we don't have the machine to measure that micro strain versus stress in that...
  15. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    BA, according to many engineers locally, the reason they avoid it is the connections between the concrete inserted to the column would have minimal shear bond strength. Whereas they said if one puts epoxy, the shear bond strength is around 3000 to 5000 psi. They reason that if the new concrete...
  16. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    BaRetired, you said you have never replaced a section of column in middle of column in 55 years of practrice. You have many structural engineer friends (dozens) in your hometown. Do you think they have ever done this? If you meet them, please ask. I wonder what material they insert it with...
  17. khinz

    Stress-Strain Curve of Structural Epoxy (type IV)

    The supplier of the epoxy said they only have data on the following: 2 part Structural Epoxy resin and hardener with polyamide with the following characteristics: Compressive Strength Minimum 8,000-11,000 psi Compressive Strength Maximum 11,000-12,000 psi Tensile Strength 3,000 - 5,000 psi...
  18. khinz

    Stress-Strain Curve of Structural Epoxy (type IV)

    I've searched for over an hour in the internet for the stress-strain curve of type iv structural epoxy and can't find this. Anyone knows where to get them? I need them asap. I need to know the portion in the curve where young's modulus (hooke's law) apply and what tests they did to derive the...
  19. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    What I also learnt are: 1. the formula modulus=stress/strain is only valid in the elastic range.. meaning up to 0.0005 only. For above 0.0005, the stress-curve in the figure has to be used since it is based on actual data. 2. I also learnt that for fast loading vs slow loading, the steel...
  20. khinz

    Compression vs Compressive Strength

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/stressstraincurve.jpg/ I talked to other engineers in my country. They all are unaware of what Ron is saying about strain incompatibility. So I spent many days reading many references and computing stuff in order to prove to them there is load reduction...
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