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Hello Everyone! I know I had said farewell in another thread, but I found something so juicy at www.nspe.org that I just had to fit in one last post. Check out: http://www.nspe.org/forum/frames.asp?ResponseID=6982&TopicID=10&ModeId=0 and read the predicament of one Mike Chaffin, a widower...

Hello All! Since I have come out so strongly in favor of co-op programs (in this thread and others), I think I'd better clear up any misunderstanding of what I mean. The type of program I'm recommending has students working under the direct supervision of experienced engineers so that they can...

Hello All! I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but oldluddite provided a most informative link in the "outsourcing" thread that I think might be missed, so I'd like to discuss it here. Many have offered the opinion that even if the prospects for engineering may not be the best, other fields may...

Hi HgTX! Great post! I agree with you when you say: "....we don't seem to be buried in a sea of homeless who have all finished college in the last 10 years." We are far from buried, but that's not to say there are not people like that out there. Check out this link that dannym provided...

Hello All! sms is providing some great advice over in the "tailspin" thread, so I thought it worth repeating here. To quote his Aug 11 post: "As I said, my grades coming out of college were not great, actually a 2.8 on a 4.0 scale, and I did not graduate from a famous school. I received my...

Hi makeup! I think having a few "centres of excellence" would be a good idea. But sadly, I cannot imagine universities with poor engineering schools willingly forfeiting tuitions by closing their doors. And that raises a question: how do you differentiate a good engineering faculty from a poor...

Hello HgTX! In response to your observation: "You people are sounding like we should just shut down the universities and tell our kids to be electricians and hairstylists." Consider metengr's July 30th post in the thread: Who is to blame for US outsourcing thread730-100141 he states: "If I...

Hello All! And of course, hello sms! I have no reason to doubt sms, that your own outlook for the next 4-5 years (and beyond) is very good indeed. But then again, you are not "a recent high school graduate" which was the focus of the previous thread. On the contrary, you are an engineer with...

Hi makeup! Thanks for sharing your experience with the forum, I hope things improve for you. I note that your specialty is "Mechanical", which is also the area sms has worked in for the last 20 years. The fact that he has had better experiences leads me to believe that not all areas of...

Hi sms! It appears that for the last three generations (75 years or so?), members of your family have chosen wisely and been rewarded with satisfying careers. But remember, this forum is about "Where is Engineering Going in the Next 5 Years?" That's about when the next crop of grads will be...

Hello All! I agree with you completely dannym. Comparing young women to young men, I would have to say that the young men tend to have a less realistic view of the world. I also think that the education of young boys includes more manipulation - if not outright "brainwashing" - designed to...

Though this thread is old, it appears there is still a lot of interest in it, so I'll put in my 2 cents. Before commenting on engineering, I'd like everyone to take a step back and change the question by asking: Would you recommend nursing to a recent high school graduate? From what I've...

Hello All! pavlik, if I were in your shoes my head would be spinning, because you are getting excellent advice that recommends completely opposite choices! Even GregLocock is changing his mind! Though I'm biased to small companies, I think the best way to decide is by looking at your...

Hello All! GregLocock raises an important point that I would like to comment on. He states: "I think most of the doom and gloom comes from engineers who are unwilling to relocate, since I can think of at least four countries which are recruiting internationally for experienced automotive...

Hello gillball and QCE! Nice to hear some good news! Now the question is, since recruiting is forbidden in this forum, how does an unemployed engineer contact either of you? Suggestions anyone?

Hello All! I agree with metengr that there is no way to stop what is happening, and I cannot blame poor people in developing countries from jumping at any opportunity to provide for themselves and their families. That said, I have heard reports that while prices in the 1st world may be...

Hi QCE, The fact that India's population is larger is not the main reasons they are producing so many engineering grads. It is because they anticipate that their graduates will be employed on many projects that were formerly done by 1st world engineers. Note the last part of my excerpt...

Hello All! Some interesting posts today! For example: "Anyone dispensing career advice should never dissuade someone from persuing their interests, regardless of how limited they may see the field. Especially since these know-it-alls have no idea whatsoever what the job market will be like by...

Hi moltenmetal! I'm not saying that it's impossible for someone to succeed in engineering (or law etc.) without connections, I know of several people who have. What I am saying is that there will be so few good engineering job openings for new grads that I would not recommend engineering to...

Hi mbensema! For my slant on the medical doctor comparison, see my 2nd June 15 post in the thread: How much math(s) do we really /need/ to learn? thread730-96797 We may actually have some common ground here, but my interpretation is different. You will note that you are now the proud...