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  1. Stick369

    Part Definition

    I need help. I am in the middle of a discussion where the MFG ENG group wants to add a BOM to a OSV part. Current process is to attached the OSV supplied data sheet to the part number. We do not rev control OSV parts, as we don't control the design. But due to assembly techs not able to...
  2. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    Everyone thank you for your input. While I won't be taking one of our senior engineers to HR for out processing. The end result is that there is no requirement to have centerlines unless being used to define a feature. And if the feature is already defined in another view the center mark/line...
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    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    drawoh - To be clear its not my drawing. That drawing is straight from ASME y14.24-2002, its an example of monodetail part. I referenced it as an example of where the standard shows centerlines being used. mfgenggear - In the past I've always defaulted to my training as drafter, and to the...
  4. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    If its such a minor thing, we should let it go. Or, you and I should be walked over to HR then to be processed out.
  5. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    drawoh - Yes centerline provide something to pull dimensions off of. What I'm asking is what requires the centerline if no dimension is being pulled off of it. 3DDave - Losing good talent because I can't prove them wrong is a ridiculous position. You would seriously fire someone because they...
  6. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    I agree Tick, but does that mean if a standard allows for them to be omitted. Is it inferred they are required unless omitted for clarity? Also no single view is used to define a part. The two random edges would be resolved by looking at the front view and seeing a circle.
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    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    I was referring to Webster as being the standard for spelling things properly. Not that Webster is called out in drawing standard. I choose not to ignore the pile of dirty dishes in the kitchen sink. I prefer to take care of the problem, rather than pass it on for someone else to deal with.
  8. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    "suggest" does not mean required, no matter how long its been suggested. Anything less than a standard that states its requirement does not work. Suggestions, opinions, and "what we've always done" are not factual arguments. The individuals position is that it doesn't help the machinist to have...
  9. Stick369

    Standard covering centerline usage without a dimension

    Morning everyone. I'm having difficulty finding a standard the supports the use of centerlines when NOT used for a dimension. Recently the use of centerlines in a side view was challenged, not because it made the drawing unclear but because the individual didn't want to add them and is...
  10. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    ASME Y14.5-2018 4.16.1 states "When the center of the radius is not located (tangent located), [highlight #FCE94F]the arcs are tangent to the adjacent surfaces[/highlight]" Between that and our 63rms on the print, sounds like the tangent is controlled.
  11. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    The tangency between the two surfaces is completely removed if an under cut is added. Which means the two surfaces that should be tangent to each other at any limit are no longer tangent and the part is not made to print.
  12. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    Sorry about that, thought it was a question from jasso. This is my first thread on eng-tips. I've used the knowledge found here in past discussion and was my first thought as a place to ask for help.
  13. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    What standard is your image from. y14.5-2018 does not have a 4.6.5, correction it does but it is not the same topic.
  14. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    No, I'm not the vendor. I'm the Drafting Supervisor, and I'm responsible for documentation control and configuration management at our business unit. The absence of data does not mean you get to add your own. The section and image you provided does not state you are allowed to add an...
  15. Stick369

    Tangent edge transition standard

    @jassco - the special requirement has been specified with the use of a tangent arc between two surfaces and diameter dimensions. I've attached a more complete image of the dimensioned view
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    Tangent edge transition standard

    Thank you for the laugh. Sourcing a new vendor has been recommend. As far as standards go ASME Y14.5-2018 4.5.2.1 states "Where location of the center is unimportant, the drawing shall clearly show that the arc location is controlled by other dimensioned features such as tangent surfaces" 4.5.5...
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    Tangent edge transition standard

    We have a part with a cylinders that transitions to a larger diameter with a tapper at both ends of the tapper there is a transitional radius/fillet. See attached image_1 The vender recently devlivered a batch of parts with an "undercut near the smaller diameter. See attached image_2 Their...
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