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A Circuuit to Drive Ultrasonic Transducers
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search at e.g. < for ultrasonic cleaners
or < <nbucska@pcperipherals.com>
or < <nbucska@pcperipherals.com>
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I am not looking for an Ultrasonic Cleaner and I was not wanting to be pulling one apart for the circuit. I am looking for a oscillator circuit to drive ultransonic transducers. For a total different process not quite like Ultrasonic Cleaning.
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O.K. This is how it goes. The ultransonic transducers are used in a chem. cracking process. The entire process is under the control of a few PLCs which in this case must control the driving frequency (resonant frequency to about 200kHz), a sweept frequency (10 kHz to 1mHz) and different transducers at different times along the process track in given wave forms. The frequencies are adjusted for opt. cracking for given process inputs. I did not want to buy a generator which I have to rip all apart and reengineer for my this process. I did talk to a few OEMs with no luck. I wish it was as simple as buying an off the shelf generator. I just thought that some might have some type of oscillator circuit to start from. Not having to buy something to rip apart and total redesign and wire. Thank-you for the help.
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I have made a few oscillators for piezo transducers as in ultrasonic cleaners and these are very resonant systems. I have not much experience with magnetostrictive transducers which are probabdly more effective in industrials situations and possibly more broadbanded. However if you want a variable frequency power output at 400W then something like an audio amplifier commonly used in Hi-Fi would be worth looking at. These may not go the full frequency range you want but I expect the it may be possible to increase that.
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The circuit I used was a 40V Hartley blocking oscillator. Today I would try to make a line voltage oscillator for this application
I have had a quick look through my records but can not readily lay my hands on it. I will look again in the next few days.
Your application sounds like an industrial one in which case I think you should buy proven industrial generators. If you are going to use a bank of generators operating at different frequencies, then I can understand that you will have difficulty obtaining the frequencies you want from manufacturers because they will all work at their design frequency
However if you are short of cash and wanting to develop the circuitry yourself you are in for a lot of work depending on your resources. There a lot more aspects to this apart from making the oscillator.
I have had a quick look through my records but can not readily lay my hands on it. I will look again in the next few days.
Your application sounds like an industrial one in which case I think you should buy proven industrial generators. If you are going to use a bank of generators operating at different frequencies, then I can understand that you will have difficulty obtaining the frequencies you want from manufacturers because they will all work at their design frequency
However if you are short of cash and wanting to develop the circuitry yourself you are in for a lot of work depending on your resources. There a lot more aspects to this apart from making the oscillator.
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Hello Peternz and Mmartens,
Having worked with magnetostrictive transducers and having been frustrated with trying to find reasonable power supplies available off the shelf, I'm designing my own. These comments will apply equally well to a piezo device.
I've chosen an LM555 timer running in astable mode. The output waveform looks more triangular than sinusoidal but the ultrasonic transducer I'm going to drive at resonance will round that off and make it sinusoidal. The LM555 feeds a matched NPN-PNP pair of BJTs that provide the necessary current gain. This output stage is a typical audio amplifier architecture. The customization comes in matching impedances to the unique transducer characteristics.
Charlie
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Having worked with magnetostrictive transducers and having been frustrated with trying to find reasonable power supplies available off the shelf, I'm designing my own. These comments will apply equally well to a piezo device.
I've chosen an LM555 timer running in astable mode. The output waveform looks more triangular than sinusoidal but the ultrasonic transducer I'm going to drive at resonance will round that off and make it sinusoidal. The LM555 feeds a matched NPN-PNP pair of BJTs that provide the necessary current gain. This output stage is a typical audio amplifier architecture. The customization comes in matching impedances to the unique transducer characteristics.
Charlie
contact@bright-engineering.com
charliebPE
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Nbucska,
Ahh, but I'm cheap! The ultrasonic magnetostrictive transducer itself is my filter. Any harmonics that survive eddy current attenuation will then be severely attenuated because the transducer is driving a waveguide with a non-linear shape, which the math tells me will only resonate at its fundamental frequency.
Also, I changed the electrical design to a single high-powered BJT for gain.
Charlie
Ahh, but I'm cheap! The ultrasonic magnetostrictive transducer itself is my filter. Any harmonics that survive eddy current attenuation will then be severely attenuated because the transducer is driving a waveguide with a non-linear shape, which the math tells me will only resonate at its fundamental frequency.
Also, I changed the electrical design to a single high-powered BJT for gain.
Charlie
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