About rising sea levels 16

[hokie66]

A shipbuilder give a reason for the few millimetres of rise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPNhTVicEe4

 

[rb1957]

What the heck did I miss ? When did Churchill's "V for Victory" become an overtly (covertly ?) racist sign ??

BTW, there are two "V for Victory" signs ... with the palm out (a "true" V for Victory) or with the palm in (which means something else). Churchill was noted for giving the latter sign with a grin.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[bones206]

If the guy in front of you is flashing the white power sign, and you flash the victory sign, what do you think your intended message is?

I’m not being PC. I’m not being woke. I’m not cancelling anyone. I’m just calling a spade a spade.

 

[rb1957]

I'd probably flip him the "reverse V" and anticipate a fight.

But then I wouldn't've known what his sign meant in the first place.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[bones206]

https://www.news.com.au/world/pacif...t/news-story/b6654e20835dd6200117a69516ceed7f

The hand gesture, often accompanied by a smirk, is associated with white power groups. The middle, ring and pinky fingers is said to represent a ‘W’ (white) and the thumb and forefinger come together to represent a ‘P’ (power).

 

IM, I was being sarcastic. However, we really don't know if climate change is good or bad.

There's a few people who have experience-based opinions. Among other places, they live in:

New Orleans
Northern California
Interior B.C.
Pacific Northwest
Pretty much all Inuit territory
Siberia
China
Syria
Bangladesh
Various Pacific islands
Calgary
Fort McMurray
Germany
Greece
Greenland
Antarctica
Australia
NYC
Venice

But perhaps these all can be dismissed as special interest groups who like to complain.

The one that really gets me is the Arctic: global heating caused by burning fossil fuels has opened it up to exploration for (wait for it) ... more fossil fuels.


"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[ACtrafficengr]

And, the differences in ph levels were blamed on global warming, though I'm not sure how.

It's not so much caused by warming, as they are both caused by the same thing. As CO₂ levels increase in the atmosphere, more gets dissolved into water. Some of this CO₂ forms carbonic acid, H₂CO₃. This has increased the acidity of the ocean by 30%, according to NOAA.

Among other problems it causes, this is A Bad Thing if you like shellfish. It makes it harder for organisms to create calcium carbonate.

My glass has a v/c ratio of 0.5

Maybe the tyranny of Murphy is the penalty for hubris. -

http://xkcd.com/319/

 

[rb1957]

"The hand gesture, often accompanied by a smirk, is associated with white power groups. The middle, ring and pinky fingers is said to represent a ‘W’ (white) and the thumb and forefinger come together to represent a ‘P’ (power)." ... oh, so it's more like the Vulcan "live long and prosper" salute ?

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?

 

[ACtrafficengr]

There's a few people who have experience-based opinions. Among other places, they live in:
...
NYC

I'm in Albany NY, 150 miles inland from NYC. The Hudson River is tidal to the Federal Dam, just north of here. In the early 1920s, Henry Ford built a hydro plant at the dam to power his factory.

The turbines have lost a foot of head since then. We're near the inflection point for glacial rebound, and river gages don't show a clear trend of higher flows. I can't think of any reason to explain it, other than higher tailwater due to sea level rise.

We'll be okay. The river banks are high here, but low lying parts of downstate will be hurting when a nor'easter or hurricane comes through.





My glass has a v/c ratio of 0.5

Maybe the tyranny of Murphy is the penalty for hubris. -

http://xkcd.com/319/

 

[hokie66]

bones206,
Why do you think that is Stuart Ballantyne in the photo? Doesn't look like him to me. Dr Ballantyne is chairman of this company:

https://www.seatransport.com/

 

[bones206]

The man I circled is David Pellowe. He is the person who published the video.

 

[bones206]

This article published today illustrating the challenges ahead for my community:

https://www.mainepublic.org/environ...olar-projects-are-a-major-part-of-that-growth

 

[TugboatEng]

I can't think of any reason to explain it, other than higher tailwater due to sea level rise.

Is subsidence not a possibility?

 

Add Lower Mainland BC to my list.
Poor logging practices followed by wildfires followed by landslides. Falling like dominoes.

We need to stop calling these events 'natural disasters', when in fact many are manmade.


"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Poor logging practices followed by wildfires followed by landslides. Falling like dominoes.

Interesting, we have almost the opposite problem here in California. Poor forest management leading to more wildfires. Meaning we probably need to set controlled burns to prevent the large fires from having so much fuel to spread so rapidly.

 

It can happen in different orders, but landslides are always the last. But actually I think you said the same thing.

Unlike the US, Canada has few alternate routes for east-west shipment (and almost all of it is east-west).

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts."

 

[IRstuff]

Interesting, we have almost the opposite problem here in California. Poor forest management leading to more wildfires.

Not incorrect, but it makes it appear that the state is to blame, while the reality is that the bulk of the forests under government control is actually under federal control. Moreover, the original "10 AM" policy lasted from ~1910 til 1978, which actually had two effects, overloading of fuel because of the fire prevention policy, and increased encroachment into forested areas, because people knew the policy dictated putting out all fires at any cost. In any case, we didn't know it was bad forest management until about 50 years ago.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46183690

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/burn-fighting-wildfires/

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[1503-44]

Human caused CC is now the greatest contributor to western wildfires

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/11/211105114305.htm

 

[JoshPlumSE]

Not incorrect, but it makes it appear that the state is to blame, while the reality is that the bulk of the forests under government control is actually under federal control.

That is probably true (meaning what you're saying makes sense, but I haven't confirmed it). However, I will point out that other states (with plenty of forests) don't seem to have anywhere near as bad of a wild fire problem as California. I tend to believe that California influences the management of these area somewhat.... Though I have to admit that I haven't really researched this much.

 

[TugboatEng]

Human caused CC is now the greatest contributor to western wildfires

That's a load of hooey. In California, 650 fires are were caused by lightning strike in 2020. There were 9,917 fires in total during the year. Of our most significant fires this year, there was arson involved as well.

 

[IRstuff]

However, I will point out that other states (with plenty of forests) don't seem to have anywhere near as bad of a wild fire problem as California. I tend to believe that California influences the management of these area somewhat.... Though I have to admit that I haven't really researched this much.

THIS somewhat explains your perception. The east and "midwest" states have very little federal ownership, since the federal government didn't really start acquiring land for national parks, etc., until the early 20th century, or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_parks_of_the_United_States

shows the bulk of national parks are in the western states, commensurate with the limited description and allusion that federal ownership of land in eastern states is fairly light, compared to the western states. Additionally, because of the way the country developed, the mid-west and eastern states are also more heavily farmed, which likewise minimizes forest fires. Thirdly, nearly 2/3rds of the country gets plenty of rainfall and/or snowmelt, which also mitigates the likelihood of fire.

http://vis.ecowest.org/interactive/wildfires.php

shows that the recorded wildfires are more prevalent in the western states, which also mostly correlates with rainfall. Even in Washington, the western side of the state has fewer wildfires than the drier, eastern side of that state. California, for the most part, would be considered to be "coastal desert" and its agrobusiness wouldn't even exist if not for the heavily irrigated Central Valley

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