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Any success in renting processor time on computer grid to run FEA?

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PVH

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Nov 17, 2002
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Due to the run time required for some of my mechanical event simulation FEA models I have been looking into renting CPU time on an external computer cluster Grid. I wanted to see if anyone has any success in doing something like this and get some advice and thoughts on doing this. So far I have looked into the following companies offering these services, showing some of the details of their service:

1. IBM "Blue Gene" Computer- I believe this supercomputer runs on Linux so should be able to run Algor. They charge on CPU/hour time rate but require a yearly time purchase of $5000 which I believe is about 5000 CPU-hrs.
2. Helwett Packard Grid Computer Utility- I am currently waiting response on the cost and logistics of this system. From what Algor tells me this system runs both AMD and Intel processors and Linux so it will work for Algor. I am awaiting the costs and potential sign up and use issues for this one. I beleive Algor has to help to set up the account with HP as the software must be uploaded to them so there are probably license security issues.
3. Sun Microsystems- Their computer grid seemed like the easy choice. Easy sign up and navigation on their website and straight up $1/CPU-hour charges, no minumum time requirement. Looked very user freindly but the glitch is that the computer runs the Sun Solaris platform which according to Algor won't run their program. Maybe Sun will change that and make it more accomodating down the line.

In any event I'd like to know others users thoughts and findings on this. I am basically getting to the point where if a rented grid won't work I am gonna bite the bullet and setup a cluster of computers in the guestroom...haha.

Phil
 
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I am told that one of our supercomputers is a 16 node cluster of PCs. If you want to get your toes wet then look for ClusterKnoppix - a Live CD that turns networked PCs into a cluster, which can be 'installed' without using their hard drives at all (not that that sounds very sensible for FEA!).





You might want to use calculix as the FEA program, but I don't know if it is multi cpu. It certainly has some otherannoying limitations, sadly.


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Greg,

"You might want to use calculix as the FEA program, but I don't know if it is multi cpu. It certainly has some otherannoying limitations, sadly."

Considering CalculiX is free-ware I think its capabilities are remarkable and exceed those of some other systems you have to part with money to obtain !
 
PVH also posted in the Algor forum, so I presume that is the software of choice. This is where, in my opinion, the software price becomes an issue...I wouldn't expect freeware (which I agree with johnhors is EXCELLENT for the price) to be multi-threaded.

PVH, I've used Algor for years, but you are beyond me...let me know how it works...I have a friend who is interested in getting in to the clustered computers side of this business...

Garland

Garland E. Borowski, PE
Borowski Engineering & Analytical Services, Inc.
Lower Alabama SolidWorks Users Group
 
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