MrFurleyEIT
Structural
- Apr 21, 2007
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I am trying to determine all the possibilities for the hickness of a column base plate, t (ASD Method) for axial loads only without any substantial moments. The AISC Manual 9th Ed on Pg. 3-106 provides that t be the larger of or {2m or 2n} * SQRT(fp/Fy). My CERM 8th Ed also states that this is also equal to {m or n} * SQRT (3fP/Fb), where Fb, tensile bending stress, = 0.75 Fy. I am cool with this.
My CERM also states that if m or n are small, then t = L * SQRT(3 * fp/Fb) must also be checked. L has to be solved from an quadratic equation, Fp = P/A = P/(2L * (d + b - 2L)). Even though this is more tedious and less frequently encountered, I am also cool with this.
However, I have come across other calculations for t that I am not very clear about. Two such ones are from the "green book" that states that tp = 2 * n' * SQRT (fp/Fy) and tp = 2 * lambda * n' * SQRT (fp/Fy). While the note for these equations state that these equations are for more heavily loaded small plates, how do we decide when to use them? Hope someone can elaborate on this. Under what conditions do we check the base plate thickness with these equations.
Another such one is from the AISC Design Guide 1, 2nd Ed which is from the AISC 13th Manual that states that t min = l * SQRT (2 * OMEGA * Pa/( Fy * B * N) where l is the max of {m or n or lambda * n'). Lambda * n' = lambda * SQRT (d * bf/4). Do we need to check for this each and every time, too?
Also, another confusing thing is the value of OMEGA. In the AISC SDG-1 on Page 32, OMEGA is given as 1.67. However, on Page 31 of the same design guide, the value of OMEGA was provided as 2.50. Can someone please explain why the discrepancy, and which value of OMEGA should I use.
Appreciate any and all responses from all of you familiar with this topic, and please provide references, page nos, and sample calcs, if possible, to help us understand why this is so. Thanks a bunch.
My CERM also states that if m or n are small, then t = L * SQRT(3 * fp/Fb) must also be checked. L has to be solved from an quadratic equation, Fp = P/A = P/(2L * (d + b - 2L)). Even though this is more tedious and less frequently encountered, I am also cool with this.
However, I have come across other calculations for t that I am not very clear about. Two such ones are from the "green book" that states that tp = 2 * n' * SQRT (fp/Fy) and tp = 2 * lambda * n' * SQRT (fp/Fy). While the note for these equations state that these equations are for more heavily loaded small plates, how do we decide when to use them? Hope someone can elaborate on this. Under what conditions do we check the base plate thickness with these equations.
Another such one is from the AISC Design Guide 1, 2nd Ed which is from the AISC 13th Manual that states that t min = l * SQRT (2 * OMEGA * Pa/( Fy * B * N) where l is the max of {m or n or lambda * n'). Lambda * n' = lambda * SQRT (d * bf/4). Do we need to check for this each and every time, too?
Also, another confusing thing is the value of OMEGA. In the AISC SDG-1 on Page 32, OMEGA is given as 1.67. However, on Page 31 of the same design guide, the value of OMEGA was provided as 2.50. Can someone please explain why the discrepancy, and which value of OMEGA should I use.
Appreciate any and all responses from all of you familiar with this topic, and please provide references, page nos, and sample calcs, if possible, to help us understand why this is so. Thanks a bunch.