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[Alistair_Heaton]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...idge-explosion-us-canada-border-b2451973.html

Only thing I can think of is it was CNG fuelled and the tank went.

 

[Sym P. le]

It's difficult to tread the line on appropriate digging in these tragedies where loss of life is involved. Fortunately, I missed the extended video (which I have now seen) so my postings are generous with descriptions. Obviously, the car made direct impact for the end result as we know it.

My heart goes out to the families. We have a lot of work to do to ensure the safety of engineered products.

 

[TugboatEng]

So they released the names of the couple involved and the strangest thing is that nobody seems to agree on how the name is spelled. I have seen Villani, Vallani, and Vullani. Fox News even used different spellings in the same article with the man as Villani and the woman as Vallani. Daily Mail used Vullani.

 

[JohnRBaker]

They've identified the couple killed in the crash near the Canadian border:

Victims in Niagara Falls border bridge crash identified as Western New York couple

https://apnews.com/article/niagara-falls-bridge-explosion-38a30e3b86f3c87ed6e4faf829dde0c3?

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[Sym P. le]

To be sure, what is evident in the video is entirely consistent with a fuel tank being breached and igniting in a fireball. In that sense there was no scurrilous explosion nor any reasonable analysis at first blush that anyone was trying to run the border or cause mayhem.

The scene is entirely consistent with a driver fighting for his and his passengers life with a stuck accelerator pedal.

 

[waross]

Or it may have been the last big argument.
Hubby got so fed up that he got the last word, whatever the cost.

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Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[LittleInch]

Everything is speculation given the complete destruction of the vehicle.

Many uncontrolled acceleration incidents where data is available is a brake/ accelerator confusion and people understably panic and just press the "brake" harder and harder.



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[Sym P. le]

I had a stuck pedal once but it wasnt to the floor and the brakes held. It was an uncomfortable slow speed experience. The Tiger Woods incident, not likely a stuck pedal, includes elements of accelerator confussion. Both of these situations are with veicles unfamiliat to the driver.

This situation sets up like the quarter mile drag race from hell, literaly one third mile from where they left the casino. I guess when folks are beset with misfortune, they have to prove their integrity to protect their reputations, or not. Without the product safety recall, I'd be more inclined to give weight to that theory.

 

[Sym P. le]

WGRZ - 'Black box' will be vital for investigators in Rainbow Bridge crash

There are no recalls related to unintentional acceleration for the 2022 Bentley Flying Spur, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Some 400 Flying Spurs built between 2018 and 2021 were recalled in Australia last year "due to inconsistent fitment of the fuse box and the electrical harness the A-post lower trim can protrude into the cabin reducing clearance to the accelerator pedal."

Was Australia the only country to issue a recall while others declined or were there design peculiarities on those vehicles. There is also the potential for software to rear its ugly head so the investigation may be quite involved. As far as medical issues playing a role, .3 miles is a long way to drive a straight line at high speed while a person is incapacitated.

As suspected, the car launched off the grade differential, clipping the barrier on the passenger side.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

"The range-topping Bentley Flying Spur has a 626bhp 6.0-litre W12 engine that drives all four wheels through an eight-speed automatic gearbox. That combination makes the car ferociously fast in a straight line, and if you really plant your right foot, 0-60mph can be taken care of in just 3.7sec."

Bit of an unfortunate name for it in this situation.

I have a had a stuck pedal a few times to be honest, most of them were on Bedford Lorry's and you just stuck the clutch in and let the rev limiter take care of it. Used to have to do stall tests on Terex plant, which was fun... not.

Not anywhere near the league of getting one in that beast with 3.7 sec 0-60. The Bedford lorry's couldn't even get to 60mph. 0-45 in mins.

 

[waross]

The "A" post may be closer to the accelerator in Australian cars than it is in American cars.

--------------------
Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[Sym P. le]

True. Left and right hand drives aren't mirror images.

 

[3DDave]

I've been watching Steve Eimers, "The Guardrail Guy," who lost a daughter to impalement by a badly designed guardrail end that entered her car. He's made the point that roadside construction needs to consider what happens when it gets hit. I wonder what the design expectation was for that ramp or if it was just to blend between the curb and the wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrR81g1ZkRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77fl3vvEXFk

 

[spsalso]

"As far as medical issues playing a role, .3 miles is a long way to drive a straight line at high speed while a person is incapacitated."

Perhaps some sort of seizure.


spsalso

 

[TugboatEng]

Should we design every aspect of a road for a car that can potentially drive 150mph? Maybe it's more reasonable to design a road for the posted speed limit. I can't have sympathy for someone that chooses to drive a car that is unsafe on normal roads.

Imagine if we requires roads to be safe for motorcycles.

 

[3DDave]

Tug, that detail would flip a car, potentially killing the occupants, at the expected speed, or deflect it to collide with another car.

 

[LittleInch]

In the UK in the air of motorways they have elevated platforms of the hard shoulder for police vehicles to park up and monitor the traffic.

They used to have ramps on both sides to drive in and off but now are reverse on drive off to avoid launching cars.

You need to think of the strangest things when it comes to cars and barriers.

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[enginesrus]

Was this one of those unintended acceleration deals? How and why was it going so fast to fly?

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

625 bhp v12 is the how the why I have no clue.

 

[LittleInch]

I very much doubt we will ever know. Even if there is a "black box", if it survived will only tell you certain things, but not why.

It was going that fast because it could in a straight line, even with only 4-500m of road.

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